50 NL, river against a donk, call or all in?

[Ricky_Bobby]

thanks for responses. Results:

<font color="white"> villian had Q8o </font>

[traz]

What are you beating that c/c, c/c and then pots the river? I mean, villain had Q8, but that's not really the point. Put villain on a range and tell me if you're getting 2:1 on that.

This is why blocking the river is like 10x better then c/c

[wslee00]

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What are you beating that c/c, c/c and then pots the river? I mean, villain had Q8, but that's not really the point. Put villain on a range and tell me if you're getting 2:1 on that.

This is why blocking the river is like 10x better then c/c

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the guy is 65/24. To me his play seems exactly like two pair (OP please don't give results next time). I also don't like c/c, but it's b/c i like bet/call better.

[Ricky_Bobby]

I don't know 45, 79, 75, 74, 67, 78, 9T, 42, Q8, 86, 63. I agree leading is better but I didn't want to pick a line where folding would be part of the equation. This is mainly because I know I won't fold if I lead and he raises, but at the time I never really thought about folding. I think b/c&gt;c/c&gt;b/f.

I put results because I figured the thread would die soon, sorry.

[Ricky_Bobby]

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What are you beating that c/c, c/c and then pots the river? I mean, villain had Q8, but that's not really the point. Put villain on a range and tell me if you're getting 2:1 on that.

This is why blocking the river is like 10x better then c/c

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the guy is 65/24. To me his play seems exactly like two pair (OP please don't give results next time). I also don't like c/c, but it's b/c i like bet/call better.

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Also, isn't his play more consistent with a draw than 2 pair?

I would expect a raise from 2 pair on the flop. If he had aces up I would definitely expect a raise on the turn. His hand sure looked a lot more like 1 pair (likely)/draw(likely)/slow played set(unlikely I think). I still have all 1 pair hands beat, the only 2 pair that makes sense is rivered queens up, and all the draws missed, except backdoor clubs. 1 pair hands probably fold at this point, and draws definitely do if I make a decent sized river bet.

The more I think about it I don't know what hand can call a river bet if we lead, and at least now he has a chance to bluff.

[Movelong]

Wat scares u now man? a flush or a set?
u said "The guy is 65/26/1 only previous hand he check raised me when I had 99 on an 8 high board and I folded"
He just saw yr weakness and doing it to u again. IMO,check/call this guy is the way to see how he was acting and seeing his weakness.And this type of playing make him wonder if i slowlaying or not? if u could see his cards on river,Then u know how to get him busted on the next hands. So wat i want here is watching him play the game rather than he watching me play the game. Now ur on the top man

[sightless]

vs 65/26/1 I am betting the river for value and call any raises which he makes