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Old 08-30-2007, 07:26 PM
praios praios is offline
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Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $760.33
Hero (BB): $1,233.70
UTG: $381.30
MP: $669.40
CO: $672.00
BTN: $591.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $36.00</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $33.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $131.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $669.40</font>, SB folds, Hero ?

26/11/7.7/29 villian

villian thinks a while and when pushes
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: QQ preflop

I gotta imagine KK here. At best I think you might be in a race with AK, but I doubt it.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:28 PM
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Whats your image like? I'd usually call this, but his weird 6x opening raise preflop followed by tank and shove reeks of AA/KK to me, esp considering his stats. If your image is solid/TAGy I would consider folding this.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:28 PM
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i swear to god this is always AA.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:39 PM
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wot u tink he has?? JJ??? AQ??? lower? i say given his stats he has these hands at best 20% of the time, i think this is a very easy fold!
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:48 PM
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easy call. you cant allow yourself to fold when hes pushing AK - which will be the most common hand. you have &gt; 15% of your stack in there already and even vs AA/KK youre 20% to win.
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:54 PM
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easy call. you cant allow yourself to fold when hes pushing AK - which will be the most common hand. you have &gt; 15% of your stack in there already and even vs AA/KK youre 20% to win.

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LOL U CANT BE A WINNING PLAYER
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:08 PM
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Clear fold? Villain has position why does he want to get it in now taking down a small pot? What is the best EV for villain if he has AA/KK -- shove now and cause 2 folds, or call and shove the flop with a much bigger pot which is very likely to keep him in front while given opponents reason to call?

Villain however, with position does not want to see the flop when Hero's shown strength.. that can't be ignored.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:10 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Clear fold? Villain has position why does he want to get it in now taking down a small pot? What is the best EV for villain if he has AA/KK -- shove now and cause 2 folds, or call and shove the flop with a much bigger pot which is very likely to keep him in front while given opponents reason to call?

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SB is still in.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:11 PM
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Clear fold? Villain has position why does he want to get it in now taking down a small pot? What is the best EV for villain if he has AA/KK -- shove now and cause 2 folds, or call and shove the flop with a much bigger pot which is very likely to keep him in front while given opponents reason to call?

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SB is still in.

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Yes but his 6x AI is much more likely to cause 2 folds than anyone calling.. as above replies have shown.
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