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TP/TK turned into river bluff c/r
50fo on stars been quite tag this guy hasn't been remarkable in a good or bad way just a standard guy which is why on the river I am sure he doesn't have AK thus I am way behind his range now so I shove.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) CO (t2770) Button (t4435) Hero (t7770) BB (t3534) UTG (t10360) UTG+1 (t3060) MP1 (t7895) MP2 (t10101) MP3 (t2335) Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t200, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t500, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, MP1 calls t400. Flop: (t2200) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t800</font>, Hero calls t800, MP1 folds. Turn: (t3800) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t1000</font>, Hero calls t1000. River: (t5800) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t1200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t5370</font>, |
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Re: TP/TK turned into river bluff c/r
After we match his flop bet the pot's 60% of our remaining stack and we're likely good, plus we could get action from worse queens and draws and even stubborn JJ/1010 hands sometimes. I don't really get why we're peeling a turn instead of raising with intent to get it in.
I don't like the river c/r much. I don't trust unknowns in $55 freezeouts to fold 2-pair. |
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Re: TP/TK turned into river bluff c/r
I can't mention anything you haven't thought of so I'll ask a couple...
Do you ever raise this flop? Is adding the diamond draw as a possible holding by calling part of your reasoning...i.e are you betting or c/r turn if a diamond falls? |
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Re: TP/TK turned into river bluff c/r
If I don't have Ad I raise flop like 90% of the time.
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Re: TP/TK turned into river bluff c/r
He raised to 3BB after 1 limper, and then made small bets the whole way, in his mind extracting value.
I don't see him giving up getting 2:1 odds on the river. Seems like he'd check behind if he was worried about the 9. |
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Re: TP/TK turned into river bluff c/r
doesn't fit the range you speak of for PF flop and turn not being afraid of the 9 on the river.
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Re: TP/TK turned into river bluff c/r
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doesn't fit the range you speak of for PF flop and turn not being afraid of the 9 on the river. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah but how often do tournament players bet thin and fold? More often they'll just check behind when a card scares them. |
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Re: TP/TK turned into river bluff c/r
I play these $50f's a good amount and I wouldn't expect 68 to fold, let alone Queens up, a set, or a 9, if that's what you're asking.
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Re: TP/TK turned into river bluff c/r
What's the point of the c/r on the river? If you know you have him beat why not just call his river bet? I don't think many lone Q's call you, and many hands that beat are capable of beating you, especially against a stubborn villain. If you think it's a bluff, I just call and take the safe chips.
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Re: TP/TK turned into river bluff c/r
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doesn't fit the range you speak of for PF flop and turn not being afraid of the 9 on the river. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, not sure what you mean. Do you mean you agree he has a big hand preflop, but obviously those hands ARE afraid of a 9? I agree a big hand should be worried about the 9, but I think you're going to see a majority of people check behind and mutter if you had one, not bet small and fold to a raise getting over 2:1. If you meant something else, what do you think the 3BB raise after a limper + 4BB, 5BB, 6BB bets means? |
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