check/raised by a maniac

jt1 · #1 08-30-2007, 03:44 AM

villain is about 50/25/2 over 500+ hands but hasn't done anything ultra aggro that I've seen so far during this session.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets, BB folds, CO calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

Jenno99 · #2 08-30-2007, 04:07 AM

Yeah I would fold, he isn't scared of you the prospect of you having an ace and there aren't too many draws for it to be a semi bluff.

Leader · #3 08-30-2007, 04:20 AM

I would call it down. 86/98 are both in his range here as well as lower pairs. He probably doesn't go off with the pairs much but you never know. Also his play doesn't really make sense when you put it with pf. He open limped an ace in the CO? or 77/55? IMO the things that beat you are like a set of aces/AK or a small two pair which you have outs against.

guenttrs · #4 08-30-2007, 04:33 AM

50/25 is maybe a preflop maniac.
With overall AF 2 i need some postflop reads to judge his play. After 500+ hands you should have some notes about his Turn c/r range. Against an unknown i would always calldown and make a note.

Leader · #5 08-30-2007, 04:39 AM

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After 500+ hands you should have some notes about his Turn c/r range.

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very likely jt has not played 500 hands with villain.

rzk · #6 08-30-2007, 06:44 AM

would this be a good spot for a turn value check?

jba · #7 08-30-2007, 12:05 PM

bet/call down > turn value check >>>>>> bet/fold

danzasmack · #8 08-30-2007, 12:09 PM

This is an easy bet/call down.

You have to know what this guy is doing with AXo in the CO. I find it hard to believe that someone like this didn't open raise a hand like 55/77/A4o in the CO and decided to open limp with them instead.

I bet/call down and make a note that is probably worth about 10bbs vs. this guy.

One day i'll come up with some huge long thing about how to interpret the pfr stat because it tells you SO MUCH about a player.

For example, there are guys who would cold cap 22 but just call AKo pf. Knowing just that much about a guy = i own your mother [censored] soul and will eat your kids for breakfast.

TheDudeChad · #9 08-30-2007, 01:56 PM

At first I thought fold too, but the point the others made about his lack of a pf raise changed my mind. An A really doesn't make sense. Straight draws do, or two middle pair. Call it down.