Bodog down?

[RagzMaster]

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This is a fight for the domain name at this point, nothing more. Bodog is gonna have to settle out of court and pay X Millions to keep the name, or they will have to stick with newbodog or something else stupid.



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100% Not true. This is a fight over a patent infringement in the way Bodog processes and pays out bets. They could change their name 1000 times and it sounds like this guy is ready to fight them the whole way.

[brendanb438]

Um Ragz no. Bodog has made it quite clear that they don't give a shiat about that lawsuit. They were dumb to have used the Enom Inc. in Canada for web hosting because they will listen to U.S. court orders because of U.S. / Canadian relations. They had up until this point completely ignored the lawsuit from 1st Technologies.

All Bodog needed to have done was used a host that wasn't within US jurisdiction and this wouldn't have happened.

Do you really think Ayres cares about this companies lawsuit within the U.S.? How much you wanna bet 1st Tech. will settle for a couple Mill and Bodog will have it's domains back in order?

Ragz don't you think newbodog.com would already be shut down if the U.S. courts had the power to? Nope different host outside of U.S. jurisdiction. Also they aren't gonna change their name. Do you understand how the legal system works ragz? If Bodog operates outside of U.S. jurisdiction then 1st Tech. can waste all the money they have going after Bodog, nothing will come of it. This is how Calvin Ayres has operated his business for quite some time now.

-Brendan

[brendanb438]

If anyone wishes to contact their Customer Service department for verification of the new domain, please call them at 888-263-0000.

More Details as to what actualy happened to date:

Surprise litigation shuts down traditional Bodog brands....but New Bodog.com now in action

The past 24 hours have been a torrid time for the webbies and owner of the Bodog.com brand. The online gambling and entertainment group, which trademarked its brands some time ago, has been under siege following a Seattle court order that has hamstrung its brands....at least for now.

Bodog staff put in plenty of overnight overtime to set up New Bodog.com as a temporary solution for an issue that has serious implications for the company and its business.

The first intimation that something was wrong was when players around the planet found they could not access the usual Bodog links on Tuesday. Amid confusion and concern, the gambling group stepped up to explain that the problems were the result of a dispute over the ownership of the Bodog.com domain name, which the group was fighting. In the meantime, an alternative site had been set up for the use of customers.

As Online-Casinos.com/InfoPowa went to press it appeared that the US legal situation and Bodog's possible vulnerability in regard to appearing in the USA may have played a hand to the company's disadvantage.

On August 1st a Washington State judge in Kings County, Seattle issued a court order on the registrar for Bodog.com to have the domains taken down due to an unanticipated "patent infringement" claim.

It was part of an uncontested judgement in favour of a company called 1st Technology LLC against Bodog Entertainment Group, with the former apparently winning an award of $48 937 456.

It is not yet clear whether Bodog was aware of the action, or decided that it was too risky to enter the States or be represented in defending it. The group may not have wanted to give the USA the power of jurisdiction over it. In any event, Bodog did not appear and suffered for it.

Known Bodog registered domains have been suspended, and as an immediate 'bandaid' solution the company registered New Bodog.com - the company has trademarked the Bodog brand and founder and CEO Calvin Ayre has said it is going to fight the action with determination.

The implications for brand, business, search engine positioning and other elements are clearly significant.

According to Internet searches, 1st Technology LLC is "....a leading technology licensing company with a patent portfolio of advanced Internet and multimedia innovations.

"1st Technology is headed by Internet pioneer Dr. Scott Lewis who led the development of the world's first single integrated circuit chip with on-board video and audio compression, advanced adaptive digital signal processing technology at Oxford University, and introduced multiple broadband Internet and multimedia technologies. 1st Technology has a long list of industry leaders as licensees.

"The [alleged Bodog] violation relates to the method for the production and transmission of enhanced multimedia information.

"An optimization method is disclosed that enhances the interactivity of multimedia information. The optimization method includes separating a multimedia information into primary and secondary layers and enhancing that information in the primary layers such that the perceived psychographic information quality is improved. This method has the advantage of providing compression and/or transmission algorithms to maximize enhancement of the multimedia information."

"Nearly all aspects of the [Bodog] website have been updated to reflect the environment our clients are accustomed to," says Ayre. "We are working to resolve any of the minor remaining glitches on the alternate site, but other than that it is business as usual."

The timing of the litigation is significant and presumably intended - the first two to three weeks of North American football are the busiest of the year for online sportsbetting in that market sector.

Legal detail can be found at: http://www.metrokc.gov/kcscc/daily%2...7judgments.txt in case number 07-9-21969-8 dated 8/1/2007, and at http://dw.courts.wa.gov/index.cfm?fa...asesearchTerms

[RagzMaster]

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Um Ragz no. Bodog has made it quite clear that they don't give a shiat about that lawsuit.

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BoDog Exec: OMG! OMG! Calvin, You know those lawsuits you've been ignoring, well I hate to tell you this but you no longer own bodog.com
Calvin: I don't give a shiat
BoDog Exec: Calvin, did you hear what I said? Bodog.com is gone, it has been seized in a lawsuit. All of our customers are going crazy wondering what's going on because no one can access their accounts. Everyone wants their money withdrawn because the SKY IS FALLING! What do we tell them?
Calvin: Tell them we dont give a shiat
BoDog Exec: Sure thing Calvin. I'm putting together the press release together now that our stance is "we don't give a shiat"
Calvin : Well Done

[RagzMaster]

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Do you really think Ayres cares about this companies lawsuit within the U.S.? How much you wanna bet 1st Tech. will settle for a couple Mill and Bodog will have it's domains back in order?

-Brendan

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Of course he cares DUCY?? And if by a couple million you mean 2 million or less, I'll take that bet in a second. I'm sure it will get resolved soon bet not for less then 10 million. 1st Tech really has him by the short hairs here. Calvin doesnt really have much of a choice here, I'm sure they have more then $10 Mil out there in advertising for BoDog, and losing this name would be devastating.

[Self Made]

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They were dumb to have used the Enom Inc. in Canada for web hosting because

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eNom was their registrar, not host, and eNom is a US company. Bodog has always been hosted in Costa Rica. No doubt they shouldn't have used a US registrar though.

[brendanb438]

Self Made. Thank you for that clarification. Makes even less sense on Bodogs behalf to have used a US company. From looking at info posted on Enom on another site I thought they were out of Canada. Damn.

[Acein8ter]

I can't even get Bodog.com to come up on the net...?

[Acein8ter]

OK, I read the cardplayer article...

[Sweet James]

This is pretty fascinating stuff. When you file a lawsuit against someone, and properly serve it to them and they fail to respond, the judge has no choice but to enter a summary judgement for whatever amount the plaintaiff asked for regardless of the facts. This is how this astronomical judgement of 48,000,000 was ordered.

Had the lawsuit been challenged no rational judge or jury would have awarded such a sum for this so-called patent violation. Hell, from the reading the vague patent it seems like the case would've been thrown out as frivolous and the plaintiff would've been ordered to PAY BODOG expenses. The vague patent is basically for the technology that you see on every cable tv station. (i.e. bluscreen technology on a weather brodcast, or the picture in picture on your cable vieiwing guide). Total BS, it would cripple America economy if someone truly such a broad patent on all modern media transmissions.

However, as we all know the department of justice has very little love for bodog, and what makes this ploy a brilliantly calculated move on the plaintiffs part. Any bodog representative who enters the states to fight this will be immiediately arrested for federal gambling violations. So a summary judgement was all but inevitable. Bodog could've cared less because they had no assets in the US, or so they thought....

Apparently, in a move whose legallity I need to research, domain names are assets that can be seized to pay down court judgements. This is new ground in legal wrangling, and bodog never expected this happen as the internet is supposedly and extra-legal international consortium.

This debate could go on for years, and ultimately bodog would win. However if they don't have their domain for those years they will be royally screwed. If I were the plaintiff I wouldn't budge, and I would demand the 48 million in cash immediately, because it will cost bodog much more to lose their domain name (especially at the start of football season). So you know what I think bodog will pay it. It sucks for them, and they'll probably be less generous with their guaranteed prize pools. But hey, you live you learn. Gotta give it to the plaintiff, scott lewis, for being the craftiest bastard of the year.

edit: Well there's another option for bodog. They could hire bolivian death squads, or expatriates mercenaires that are abundant in costa rica, for a small fraction of the 48,000,0000, and send them to the US to start gunning down the plaintiff's friends and family. The US isists that the harmless bodog entertainment company is a criminal organization, so bodog should oblige them and reply in kind.