Need help value betting river, please

[ttgirl]

hand 1 i bet about 75
hand 2 i either c/c or throw out about 65
hand 3 85-95. on a side note trying to check raise a station on a drawy turn is a terrible idea.

[Novles]

Hand 1 shove and get called by a million things. Played a semi similar hand, although villain in this one was shorter.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $235.00
BB: $213.50
Hero (UTG): $266.75
CO: $325.35
BTN: $97.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $7.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14.00</font>, BTN calls $14.00

Turn: ($45) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $32.00</font>, BTN calls $32.00

River: ($109) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $82.00</font>, BTN calls all-in for $44.30
Uncalled bet of $37.70 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $197.60 ($3 Rake)

BTN had 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Sixes and Threes) and LOST (-$97.30)
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Jacks and Threes) and WON (+$97.30)

Hand 2 shove as well, same thing

Hand 3 same

value shoves ftw

[Spy Dog]

Hand 1: Value bet
Hand 2: CRAI on the turn. Think about his range.
Hand 3: Bet-fold the river against a station. Check-call against most others.

[bighead9]

If blocker betting won't work (because it might get raised) i think you have to check the river in all 3 cases. i don't think a bet makes any sense because you probably won't get called by a 2nd best hand and you can't get better hands to fold either. so check and then either call or fold, which is a tough decision. hopefully your opponent just checks behind. if not, whether you call will depend on the price you get and the type of opponent you are against.

[0evg0]

1) $92
2) $78
3) $102

[0evg0]

c/r turn on #3 sucks so hard

he's a station

the majority of his pair + draws/draw hands have no reason to bet and will check back

and even if he was aggr enough to bet all his draws when we check, then we're still better off bet/calling

[bighead9]

i don't see how everyone is saying to value bet the river. do you really think most players will call 3 big bullets with a weak/marginal one pair hand? Since they won't, and since you likely can't get better hands to fold, what is the value of a bet? i think you check behind in position, and out of position, you check and hope your opponent checks behind. if they bet, you have a tough decision that will depend on the price you get and the type of opponent you are against.

[Demogorgon]

Generally, there is so much value lost checking rivers with good top pairs vs bad players that has shown 0 aggression. I think it's a very common leak among decent players.

[orange]

1- all day
2- bet, have 66 call you, profit
3- ya, not sure. closer, but bet.

[bighead9]

sure, you might get called by one or two inferior hands if you bet, but what about the many hands that beat you that will also call? the number of 2nd best hands that call has to compare to the number of hands that beat you for a bet to be profitable.