A8 vs 3-bet AIPF from blinds; $16 turbo STT

[Toronto86er]

About five hands previous to this, I had doubled up for a second time with JJ (first was with KK), and started to get fairly pushy with my big stack. I was very TAG before that though (~10/10/2), and villain is about 20/8/1.

What's villain's pushing range here and can we call?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t3980)
Hero (t5020)
SB (t1915)
BB (t2585)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t1890</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero ...

[JacJacAtk]

Avoid this problem and shove pre-flop?

I suppose it's a borderline shove without antes, but at least it's unexploitable. If the blinds are straightforward, maybe make it 500 and fold the push.

[andvanwyk]

I don't think shoving preflop is a good idea since the BB has 13 BB's. I call here getting 2-1 or I raise to 500 preflop instead of 600 and fold to a repop.

[Toronto86er]

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Avoid this problem and shove pre-flop?

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I realize now that PF was the problem. I'm trying to up the # of tables I'm playing and I was too distracted to realize that a shove/smaller PF bet might have been better.

As played I think we've committed ourselves to a call,no?

[JacJacAtk]

Actually, even getting almost 2.1-1 you might be able to find a fold here. He has to be pushing 22+ and at least some worse Aces and Kx hands before it's +cEV. That seems like a big range against a big stack.

[Toronto86er]

Hand converter doesn't show (sorry, forgot to mention) that there were also antes which upped our pot odds to about 2.16:1.

Against this range:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 32.218% 30.44% 01.78% 55242972 3233353.00 { Ac8d }
Hand 1: 67.782% 66.00% 01.78% 119794546 3233353.00 { 77+, ATs+, KQs, ATo+, KQo }

We're getting odds to call, if only just, and that's fairly tight IMO.

[JacJacAtk]

Hmmm, I get you as a 68.2-31.8 dog using PokerStove vs top 10% (a bit wider than the range you used).

In any event, I think it's probably opponent dependent. You've got a guy who open-raises 8%, is he really re-stealing from the big stack on the bubble with that much (or more)?