i always lose a huge pot in thishandsoijustkindagaveuponbettingtheturn

[Lego05]

Bet the turn. $2 will be fine. Fold if he check raises.

As played call river.

[Zues]

Why wouldn't we bet the turn QJ is unlikey.

[jerryf1914]

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Why wouldn't we bet the turn QJ is unlikey.

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what about 67,k8,k9,910,98,108,k10, 88,99,1010,kk...did i miss any?

[shoxbb6]

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Why wouldn't we bet the turn QJ is unlikey.

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what about 67,k8,k9,910,98,108,k10, 88,99,1010,kk...did i miss any?

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Yea, he never has hearts, a float, mid pair, or any hand you beat ever. Just fold turn after he checks.

[KEW]

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what about 67,k8,k9,910,98,108,k10, 88,99,1010,kk...did i miss any?

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Then I guess you should've just open folded when checked to on the turn....

[Zues]

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Why wouldn't we bet the turn QJ is unlikey.

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what about 67,k8,k9,910,98,108,k10, 88,99,1010,kk...did i miss any?

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Yea, he never has hearts, a float, mid pair, or any hand you beat ever. Just fold turn after he checks.

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[jerryf1914]

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Why wouldn't we bet the turn QJ is unlikey.

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what about 67,k8,k9,910,98,108,k10, 88,99,1010,kk...did i miss any?

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Then I guess you should've just open folded when checked to on the turn....

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i must run worse than you /shrug

[Sean Fraley]

The turn is where you need to decide if you will call a reasonably sized river bet (decent in this hand being PSB or less) and the answer lies in why you were checking the turn.

I assume that you were checking to control the size of the pot and therefore get to showdown cheaply or to induce a bluff. Then you have to call this bet to both catch possible bluffs now (and a bluff is a possibility) and to discourage future bluffs from opponents. While it may take some getting used to, remember that you only have to showdown the best hand 33% of the time to break even here. Admittedly it's weird to realize that you are actually making a profit when you lose the majority of the time that you call here, but you have to get used to it.

[spkid]

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The turn is where you need to decide if you will call a reasonably sized river bet (decent in this hand being PSB or less) and the answer lies in why you were checking the turn.

I assume that you were checking to control the size of the pot and therefore get to showdown cheaply or to induce a bluff. Then you have to call this bet to both catch possible bluffs now (and a bluff is a possibility) and to discourage future bluffs from opponents. While it may take some getting used to, remember that you only have to showdown the best hand 33% of the time to break even here. Admittedly it's weird to realize that you are actually making a profit when you lose the majority of the time that you call here, but you have to get used to it.

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I agree. I don't mind checking the turn here for pot control since a check raise on the turn could blow you out of this hand.

It's really a decision to either try to protect a hand that may still be ahead or to control the pot. With only one pair and a very scary board I like pot control here.

Once you decide to control the pot, though, you have to call the river or your going to get floated in the future by the villain and who ever else is paying attention. Then you really won't be able to play your one pair hands effectively.

Also, best title for a post that I've seen yet. Almost got the whole post in the subject line.

[11t]

Bet turn

As played call the river