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#11
08-28-2007, 02:14 PM
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Re: illegal raise
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...maybe room dependent but foxwoods you have to double the initial bet otherwise its not a raise and betting is not reopened [/ QUOTE ] This is true for NL holdem. For limit holdem, a raise is usually half or more the bet for the round. 
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#12
08-28-2007, 02:15 PM
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Re: illegal raise
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If this is a limit game, and the bet for the round is $40, then a raise must be $95 total (i.e. a call of $55 plus a raise of $40). [/ QUOTE ]ctually not. In a limit game the raise would actually be a completion of the bet to $80.his is because the all-in action was less than 50% of a valid raise) You are correct that in NL the minimum raise would be to $95
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#13
08-28-2007, 02:15 PM
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Re: illegal raise
The rules for how much of an all-in bet "re-opens the betting" varies NL vs Limit, and from room to room. In San Jose Limit games, if the bet is $16, going all-in for $30 does not re-open the betting, and any allowed "raise" would be to $32 (raising the initial $16 bet by $16).
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#14
08-28-2007, 03:37 PM
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Re: illegal raise
What a CF of a thread.
Op is asking, "Why isn't the 3rd player allowed to raise?" The answer is, "Because whoever ruled that he cannot, is an idiot."
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#15
08-28-2007, 03:42 PM
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Re: illegal raise
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[ QUOTE ] Correct - the all-in raise must be at least 50% of the amount required to raise to re-open the betting. [/ QUOTE ] wouldnt this only be if it were heads up? [/ QUOTE ] If it's heads up and someone's all in, why would it matter how to re-open the betting?
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#16
08-28-2007, 04:00 PM
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Re: illegal raise
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[ QUOTE ] If this is a limit game, and the bet for the round is $40, then a raise must be $95 total (i.e. a call of $55 plus a raise of $40). [/ QUOTE ]ctually not. In a limit game the raise would actually be a completion of the bet to $80.his is because the all-in action was less than 50% of a valid raise) [/ QUOTE ] Ok, let's say the bet for a round of limit holdem is $40. The first player to act has $15. He bets and is all-in for $15. So can the next player raise to $55 can he only bet $40? What if the first player had $21?
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#17
08-28-2007, 04:13 PM
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Re: illegal raise
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Ok, let's say the bet for a round of limit holdem is $40. The first player to act has $15. He bets and is all-in for $15. So can the next player raise to $55 can he only bet $40? What if the first player had $21? [/ QUOTE ] In San Jose (Bay101 and Garden City), both situations, the next player can fold, call the all-in wager, or make a $40 bet. There is no "raise" option.
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#18
08-28-2007, 04:38 PM
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Re: illegal raise
Actually there are 2 different answers to your 2 questions here. In the 1st part if player one goes all in for $15 then another player can complete the bet to $40. In the second problem if player one has $21 left then he can go all in $20 and the other players can call the bet or raise to $60. Most poker rooms do not allow the $1 to play for all in on a red chip game.
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#19
08-28-2007, 04:42 PM
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Re: illegal raise
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If this is a limit game, and the bet for the round is $40, then a raise must be $95 total (i.e. a call of $55 plus a raise of $40). [/ QUOTE ]ctually not. In a limit game the raise would actually be a completion of the bet to $80.his is because the all-in action was less than 50% of a valid raise) [/ QUOTE ] Ok, let's say the bet for a round of limit holdem is $40. The first player to act has $15. He bets and is all-in for $15. So can the next player raise to $55 can he only bet $40? What if the first player had $21? [/ QUOTE ] In a limit game such as what you describe the next player can complete the bet to $40 (I'm assuming this is after a flop and that we aren't dealing with a blind)(his only options here are fold, call $15, or complete to $40) if in fact the allin bet was $21 then the next player would not be able to complete the bet, but he could raise.is options would be fold, call $21 or raise to $61. In actuallity the all in bet would probably be limite dto $20 in most rooms the last $1 wouldn't play. the raiose would tyherefore be to $60
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#20
08-28-2007, 06:42 PM
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Re: illegal raise
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In a limit game such as what you describe the next player can complete the bet to $40 (I'm assuming this is after a flop and that we aren't dealing with a blind)(his only options here are fold, call $15, or complete to $40) [/ QUOTE ] Ok, I got it. A less than half opening bet is almost like a check except you have to meet it if you want to stay in the hand as a minimum or make a full bet if you want to increase the amount. However, a guy with less than half a bet on the table maybe has only half a brain.
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