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Old 08-28-2007, 12:21 PM
cfb1739 cfb1739 is offline
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Default TPTK turns nut flush draw

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $200.00
Hero (BB): $200.00
UTG: $131.55
MP: $450.75
CO: $230.90
BTN: $227.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $2.00, CO folds, BTN raises to $9.00, SB folds, Hero calls $7.00, MP folds

Flop: ($21) T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $15.00, Hero calls $15.00

Turn: ($51) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $44.00, Hero calls $44.00

River: ($139) 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $54.00, Hero calls $54.00

Pot Size: $247.00 ($3 Rake)

Seems like I could be beat on river, but I can't fold for $54.00.

Alternative lines pls.
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: TPTK turns nut flush draw

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Alternative lines pls.

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Sometimes i CRAI on turn...
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: TPTK turns nut flush draw

What hands can I reasonably expect to fold? I CR turn AI here alot, but I've been finding that I really don't have as much fold equity as I hope to have when I make these plays.
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: TPTK turns nut flush draw

I would fold pf around 3/4 of the time, having called i would hav led out on the flop, having just called the flop i would have crai on the turn.
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: TPTK turns nut flush draw

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I would fold pf around 3/4 of the time

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You fold AJs to a button raise? Seems like you can get value out of worse aces and jacks, as well as worse fd's.
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: TPTK turns nut flush draw

Why c/r turn? Unknown will fold QQ+ here like never.
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:44 PM
ValarMorghulis ValarMorghulis is offline
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Default Re: TPTK turns nut flush draw

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What hands can I reasonably expect to fold? I CR turn AI here alot, but I've been finding that I really don't have as much fold equity as I hope to have when I make these plays.

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lol at trying to get better hands to fold. If you c/r turn you are hoping to get called by worse hands or worse draws. And in the back of your mind you know that you have outs if called. I don't think it is a good idea.

I think the hand is well played. River is marginal and could be a fold, but call looks fine.
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: TPTK turns nut flush draw

I just shove the turn, there's lots of hands that have lots of outs against you and you have nice equity vs. almost anything he has.
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: TPTK turns nut flush draw

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I would fold pf around 3/4 of the time

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You fold AJs to a button raise? Seems like you can get value out of worse aces and jacks, as well as worse fd's.

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you wont see a weaker ace here much of the time imo, if it was merely a button raise (as in mp had not limped in) i would certainly call!
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: TPTK turns nut flush draw

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you wont see a weaker ace here much of the time imo, if it was merely a button raise (as in mp had not limped in) i would certainly call!

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I think you see smaller suited aces alot. But I agree that the MP limp eliminates alot of the smaller offsuit aces from button's range. I also think A8o-A10o are definitely part of button's range.
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