Any feedback concerning the fairness of online play??

[Ro$$]

I don't think online is rigged at all, but this home game i play in has to be.....

[steeveg01]

with respect pzhon why do you assume that people who are looking into a theory that online poker sites may have a flaw are bad players, i have 4 accounts and all in profit, i do not play for high stakes and do not claim to be a great player ready to turn pro,remember if someone had made the same point as jobo a few years back people would have posted the same replys saying its just an excuse for there own bad play but it was proven at the time there was a flaw in software,so i will always keep an open mind to it happening again, but i have never ever thought that poker sites are rigged or corrupt,and yes players will scream when there ak all in gets beat by a pair of 2s when they dont know the odds , but i just wonder if something is wrong sometimes and there must be a lot of players who win regular who think the same

[OziBattler]

one of my favourite threads right now is the rantings and ravings of an online pro and youll note that what is missing from that thread and threads like it is EVIDENCE.

I didnt used to run very well at poker and then I learned to beat the game. I still get sucked out on which means there are still fish out there who play bad but now that I play goot I still win well despite the suckouts.

anyway if it is rigged theres not much you can do about it so your energy would be better spent studying the strat forums here and winning mo monies [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

goodluck at the tables

[hed zup]

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hi jobbo, i looked into the sort of points you are making about 18 months ago , i posted the same sort of message you have, i tried to point out that yes players will play rubbish hands and they will suck out, the point i was trying to make is,if say you have trips against 2 pair with the river to come, the mathmatics say its 11/1 min for 2 pair to make his full house on the river, i wrote this after my trips had been beaten 3 times 1 after another,i can understand flushes and openended straights hitting, but people hitting 11/1 shots reguarly means something has to be wrong, i have never thought online poker rooms are rigged, its not in there interest, why should they rig the sites they dont care who wins, i just think these sort of long shots happen a lot more than they should, afew years back i read an artical about poker hands being random but individual cards not being random,in short it ment there where hundreds of thousands of different poker hands being delt , a few people cracked this and could tell who had what hole cards and what the next cards would be on the flop,i have been assured this fault in the software does not happen anymore,but that makes me think ok,is something else wrong, as i say i dont think its rigged or corrupt, but there may be some flaw in the software as the mathmatics dont add up, yes players will suckout more often when they hit the 11/1 or 22/1 shots, but the mathmatics say they shouldnt do it on average more than 11 or 22 times,
how many times as every player been hit by theese sort of draws 1 after an other

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so your basically saying if you flipped a coin 10 times and 7 out of ten times it landed on heads and 3 times tails, something must be wrong because the odds dont add up.

[Jobo]

I hear all of ya [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I can't put any weight into rigged programs. Faulty, though... that's a mebbe. LOL. But then, I've no evidence but my own skewed perceptive. I've read about 4 books on poker strat, and I know for sure I don't have all that info down pat and memorized yet. My poker play ranges from the absurd through brilliant right on to brilliantly absurd! I remember loads of amazing hands that have won me big pots or just a few pennies. The trouble, sometimes, is at the end of a session my big accumulations, garnered by a 2 or 3 good hands gets devowered by several more smaller losses that, I would swear by my old aunt Ginny, were played all with similar skill/design/odds/strategy. If I had quit when I was up $$ that'd be fab, but by the end of an hour I could be 0-neg average earned.

Again, lol, no evidence yet (poker tracker needs to wait for the spare $$ to buy it), shame on me really [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] It's not oddly bad beats from only player (I hear that all the time "oh, well his play is -EV over all, he'll go bust sooner or later if he keeps it up.") It's the 'taking turns' that's starting to kill me. Everyone's armed with a bar of soap inna sock, and it all starts to add up!

heheh, guys, thanks for the input and the comiserations and the attempts to soothe me that 'it just ain't so, Jobo!'.

[DonCamillo]

lol, just as im reading this post my aces got busted...
let me share:
everybody folds to cut-off who goes all-in for 580, blinds 20/40 in mtt.
im in BB with aces, call, to see him turn over J-6 of diamonds...
well, do i really have to add that 3 more diamonds came up?
and he tells me i shouldnt have called...

i just wonder how long streaks like this last. honestly, there are always suckouts, but the amount of river-suckouts happening to me within the last 2 weeks is... amazing?

so i blamed me and took a 1-week break. today first day back. first mtt i got busted due to a guy catching a 3-outer on the river.
next mtt, the aces story...
im still in this mtt, so maybe i keep u updated [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[skip8118]

Im not sure on the whole thing personally. There was a error found in the one algorithm a few years ago, so its very possible this one could be messed up.

I do think there are action hands. I

[Graveraver84]

I used to feel that there had to be something wrong. I played party poker for 6 months and had players sucking out on me what seemed alot of the time. It turned out it was a lot of the time, far more often then it should mathimatically so I took my money and ran.

I tried a few other sites, now Im at UB and feel that suck outs happen far less and I'm happy playing there, maybe you should give a few sites a try and see where you feel more comfortable.

As the pros will tell you, it makes no sense that these sites are rigged because of the amount of cash they make without rigging, and this makes sense. The only arguement I have read and thought, 'hang on this makes sense' is that some sites encourage betting as it increases rake.

Example would be 2 pair v straight draw on turn, and river being card which makes both straight and full house. this kind of thing.

A few days ago I had A,K off two hands in row and lost them both to A,K off becaus they hit their flush, and I can't remember the hand but I was 92% ahead on the river on another hand and lost. All this in the space of 5 minutes, but I just carried on playing as normal and this barely effected me, but 12 months ago.. I would have gone ape.

Reason being, with all the hands i play, it would be strange if this type of thing did not happen.

[hed zup]

this thread is funny.

[shoefactory]

I remember playing in a casino this summer.

I had 27o. Of course i fold PF and flop comes 227.

OMG B&M RIGGED.