SB with AKo

cheer · #1 08-27-2007, 05:00 PM

Standard play with AKo. a group of people told me this was a bad play...what do you guys think?

49.4/12.9/2.6
at. to steal blinds: 20.00

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($199)
CO ($235.90)
Button ($205.15)
Hero ($233.65)
BB ($270.80)
UTG ($200)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button raises to $6, Hero raises to $21, 1 fold, Button raises to $40, Hero raises to $254.65 (All-In)

edit: also what do you guys think vs. a 30/10/.4?

sixhigh · #2 08-27-2007, 05:07 PM

Depends on 3bet history and stuff but him only mini 4betting and him not being too aggressive pre might make this foldable. But i don't thing pushing here is gross or something.

cheer · #3 08-27-2007, 05:34 PM

There is about $63 in the pot already and for me to push him in I would have to push about $184 more.

If he only does this min 4 bet with Aks AKo AA KK I still have a 37% equity!

If he does this with TT+ AJs+ AQo+ then I have %50.466 equity! Also I think I would have at least a little fold equity from hands like TT, JJ, AJs, AQo. This has to be a push right?

I am not sure how to work out the math but if anyone could, that would be greatly helpful.

Beanos · #4 08-27-2007, 05:45 PM

I dont think this player min 4-bets w/ AK, he will call i reckon.

BombayBadboy · #5 08-27-2007, 05:48 PM

Button likes his hand..he doesn't have AK. AK make a larger 4-bet normally, trying to creat some FE. I think his range is merely QQ+, weigthed towards KK and AA once he min 4-bets.

daume · #6 08-27-2007, 05:48 PM

maybe this is weak but I tend to fold here.
When a fish wakes up to think about a 3bet here I guess he usually has us crushed with AA/KK MAYBE QQ.

sixhigh · #7 08-27-2007, 05:50 PM

That's the problem: his pattern doesn't really indicate AK or AQs but pure strength and angst to lose you. Obviously guys like this are capable of making this play with a hand like JTs every now and then - thats why i don't mind pushing too much.

pickless · #8 08-27-2007, 06:04 PM

insta fold

cheer · #9 08-27-2007, 06:14 PM

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to his min 4 bet? you are nuts.

how is it ever correct to fold $19 into a $63 pot with AK vs a donk that is/was stealing?

syphlix · #10 08-27-2007, 06:44 PM

not sure about the other stuff but 20% isn't exactly a very high att to steal... and that stat needs a good amount of hands to be accurate anyways...

another thing is... att to steal doesn't translate to 4betting % either...

another thing is... u may have 50% vs that range but that certainly is not his calling range