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I mean why is it particularly bad against this type of opponent? What I mean with that quote (fearing to play for my stack), is I didnt feel like shoving right then and there without seeing a turn card. [/ QUOTE ] why do you want him, or you, to see a turn card? which turn cards do you think will be particularly helpful in your decision to do whatever? are you checking a turn brick again and giving anything from a queen to something dumb like T9 *two* free cards? how about when the turn is a 9? what about when it's a queen, and he had KQ/QJ and was happily going to stack off until you slowplayed yourself out of a 60/40 for a monster pot? [ QUOTE ] I thought that 80% time, better hand is calling and folding out a bluff. I know its a thin line to take being this passive, but I thought it would prove to be great against this type of opponent to double up. Take this into account. This guy has been raising alot. He is the chip leader. Uber aggressive. If I check raise all in on the flop, do you think a bare King comes along for 40% of his stack? [/ QUOTE ] this would be a good line of reasoning if the flop was 752. |
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[ QUOTE ] I mean why is it particularly bad against this type of opponent? What I mean with that quote (fearing to play for my stack), is I didnt feel like shoving right then and there without seeing a turn card. [/ QUOTE ] why do you want him, or you, to see a turn card? which turn cards do you think will be particularly helpful in your decision to do whatever? are you checking a turn brick again and giving anything from a queen to something dumb like T9 *two* free cards? how about when the turn is a 9? what about when it's a queen, and he had KQ/QJ and was happily going to stack off until you slowplayed yourself out of a 60/40 for a monster pot? [ QUOTE ] I thought that 80% time, better hand is calling and folding out a bluff. I know its a thin line to take being this passive, but I thought it would prove to be great against this type of opponent to double up. Take this into account. This guy has been raising alot. He is the chip leader. Uber aggressive. If I check raise all in on the flop, do you think a bare King comes along for 40% of his stack? [/ QUOTE ] this would be a good line of reasoning if the flop was 752. [/ QUOTE ] i think it's the opposite. and given the smooth call pre i like this line, the turn card was the best you could hope for and check seems to be right. fold or call is pretty much based on a read, but if it's pot sized i would probably fold here. |
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duck,
the pot on the flop is ~17K and we have 40K behind (24K/33K if we just call.) making the wrong decision on whatever turn vs. a LAG that will often two barrel is so bad that you're going to have to be very close to 100% sure it's the right one - on a KJT (some card) board. |
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I like the turn card a lot now call.
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I actually loved the turn card and snap called his push. He showed me K8 off and doubled up to become chipleader.
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