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Old 08-27-2007, 01:16 PM
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Default 25nl - turn decision with KQs

No real reads.

I think I played the hand pretty standard up to the turn but of course all advice is appreciated.

I am just wondering what exactly to do here.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $8.40
Hero (BB): $23.25
UTG: $6.40
MP: $25.95
CO: $25.00
BTN: $25.35

CO posts $0.25
Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="red">MP raises to $1.50</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.25, UTG calls $1.25

Flop: ($4.85) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.00</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $4.00

Turn: ($12.85) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero...
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: 25nl - turn decision with KQs

Reads? Why do you lead flop?

Anyways, you have to bet turn. I feel way ahead here. Bet/fold
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: 25nl - turn decision with KQs

generally I will bet the turn out, folding to a raise. leading the flop is good.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:21 PM
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Default Re: 25nl - turn decision with KQs

I don't like calling with KQ there pre-flop. I'd probably fold. Very rarely I'd reraise and certainly not without any reads.

As played I'm not entirely sure since I'm never in this situation and I'm not used to it. Were I the pre-flop raiser I'd bet the turn about 8 - 8.5. I think that's what I would do here. And then probably check call a non-spade river.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: 25nl - turn decision with KQs

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generally I will bet the turn out, folding to a raise. leading the flop is good.

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How much? Any decent turn bet is going to take you well past the ocmmitment point.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: 25nl - turn decision with KQs

I lead the flop for value and to protect my hand

Do you think I am pot committed if I bet since I have 18 left behind with a 12 dollar pot
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: 25nl - turn decision with KQs

If I had a read that villain was really tight or it was higher limits I would fold preflop but generally speaking I feel folding KQs at 25nl, even though I am OOP, is a lil weak tight.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: 25nl - turn decision with KQs

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I lead the flop for value and to protect my hand

Do you think I am pot committed if I bet since I have 18 left behind with a 12 dollar pot

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Pretty much actually.

This is why you have to 3bet preflop and why check calling flop is better when you dont.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: 25nl - turn decision with KQs

Calling a 6xBB raise with KQs out of position is just asking for trouble.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: 25nl - turn decision with KQs

What was your plan for the hand when you called the pre-flop raise OOP? Were you willing to commit if you flopped TP2K, which is the most likely flop for that hand? If so, then go ahead and bet $10 or so on the turn and either call a shove or get the rest in on the river.

Personally, I don't know that I'd call a 6xBB raise with that hand OOP. If I did, it would be more hoping to flop a big draw than top pair/no draw.
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