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Old 08-27-2007, 09:07 AM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default $60 - L1 QQ overpair facing flop open push

villian is a slightly winning multitabler, but his full table stars are pretty laggy (24/8).

given his preflop raise size (which is odd and too small) and his flop push i have a hard time thinking he is really good.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO (t1610)
Button (t1490)
SB (t1440)
Hero (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1480)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1480)
MP3 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t20, Button calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t100</font>, Hero calls t80, UTG calls t80, MP2 folds, CO calls t80, Button calls t80.

Flop: (t520) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t1340 (All-In)</font>, Hero?
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:13 AM
TruFloridaGator TruFloridaGator is offline
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Default Re: $60 - L1 QQ overpair facing flop open push

Callll
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:26 AM
taipan168 taipan168 is offline
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Default Re: $60 - L1 QQ overpair facing flop open push

Would re-raising preflop be bad?
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: $60 - L1 QQ overpair facing flop open push

I think I push PF. As played I instacall. He doesn't play AA,KK or JJ like this. I think I see TT a lot or AK.
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: $60 - L1 QQ overpair facing flop open push

Fold in a 5 way pot this is always AA or KK.
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: $60 - L1 QQ overpair facing flop open push

I reraise preflop everytime, 400ish. Why don't you ?

As played I call.
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: $60 - L1 QQ overpair facing flop open push

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I reraise preflop everytime, 400ish. Why don't you ?

As played I call.

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a multitabler raising over a bucnh of limpers from the bb is usually on a pretty tight range. and if he reshhoves preflop i would fold. so better to just see a pretty cheap flop (with position on the preflop raiser) and try to figure out was he has after the flop.

normally you can determine his hand real easy. if he leads for 300-400 i can put him on JJ AA KK, if he checks i can probably guess AK or AQ.

this was a rare instance where he bet but i had hard time giving him credit for AA KK and i completely ruled out a set. i really could not think of one hand that made sense to shove that flop.

ok - after thinking some more i can now see AdKd as the only hand that makes sense.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:03 PM
Pudge714 Pudge714 is offline
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Default Re: $60 - L1 QQ overpair facing flop open push

John,
Although this would be weird for AA/KK it wouldn't be that weird and it is a lot more likely he is doing this with AA than he is with TT.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: $60 - L1 QQ overpair facing flop open push

I wonder what the result is...Can you post what the sb had in that hand if you ever crying called. Thx
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: $60 - L1 QQ overpair facing flop open push

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I wonder what the result is...Can you post what the sb had in that hand if you ever crying called. Thx

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he had AJo, i folded, got called by a flush draw
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