Donkey Test

[fracas]

BB's line under Option 3 (where he holds 99+ preflop) doesn't make sense, unless... that 99+ is AA, and he's too greedy to just shove pf and hope for a call. I could see him look down at rockets and think, "I can't just get the blinds here, I've got to double through somebody with this hand to climb back into this thing." But then why min-CR the flop? It's too risky to leave this a 3-way pot w/ little chance to improve.

Gotta be Option 2.

[fracas]

More please. (How many questions were there?)

[JPajamas]

Fracas, there are 52 questions, and you can take the test by following the links near the beginning of the thread. No cheating! LOL. I have an answer key that will yield a 150 score, and some answers just don't make sense to me, and won't to the majority here, but we will discuss that at the end hopefully and become better for it!

[Fiepoto]

5/10 NL cash game. $1,000 stacks. 6 handed. You are in middle position with:
A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

A loose aggressive player UTG raises to $40. You re-raise to $130 and he calls.

The flop is:
3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

He checks and you bet $185 into the $265 pot. He check raises all-in.

[cheburashka]

This seems like an easy call against a laggro. The pot is offering ~1.7 to 1, and just our heart outs give us almost that much. Plus, there's a decent chance that any A or K is an out, plus a decent chance that he's on air and we're already ahead.

[gedanken]

This actually seems pretty close to me. It's instacall at the micros, but if this Lag has a brain, and if we've got a reasonably tight image, this is ugly.

Successful LAG's (ones that spend any amount of time at a 5/10NL game?) play loose for preflop bets and small turn bets, but are really only looking to shove it all in when they're cashing in on their loose image with a monster.


By my math, we're getting ~2:1, and we're about 1:3 to get another heart (not all hearts are outs, btw). Villain has to be bluffing more than 1 time in 6 to make the call correct.

He's got to figure our 3bet represents more pairs than unpaired hands, so the CRAI does not really mean "I know this flop missed you". If we had open-raised, this would be different. I think he's about 80-90% likely to be able to beat 1-pair right now. ~85% makes the call break-even.

This sure looks like the smart way to play a set, so I'd like to change my answer to fold. (I probably chose call when taking the test).

[cheburashka]

Hmmmm....

I agree a set looks likely, and if that's what he has, it's pretty ugly even getting ~2 to 1:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 74.444% 74.44% 00.00% 737 0.00 { 3c3d }
Hand 1: 25.556% 25.56% 00.00% 253 0.00 { AhKh }

Perhaps I'm just a bit too glib in counting outs, and it's a leak. Also, I play micro tourneys, where "laggro" on a board like this means a bluff or something like K8 a majority of the time.

I've never played 5/10 cash, so I can't tell what would be normal there.

[fracas]

Oh, I already took the test, I just don't have my stuff in front of me (printed it out). The discussion is more valuable than the test itself, anyway.

[davebwell]

For question 39, I think the best answer is one that is not given as a choice. You should kick yourself for not 3-betting the flop and getting yourself committed after he raised you.

[Fiepoto]

5/10 NL. 6 handed. $1,000 stacks. You're UTG with:
7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]