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Old 08-27-2007, 02:32 AM
nuggetz87 nuggetz87 is offline
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

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RIO?

This line seems to be really good against players who play draws too aggressively

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if you put him on a draw then c/c turn c/c a dry river right? c/r just risks too much - if he has a real hand you're toast.

i'm in the bet turn camp though most of the time.
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:13 AM
mdkrahn mdkrahn is offline
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

i think after the turn,

c/c river >> shove
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:38 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

no stats on villain? i usually bet like $14 on the flop and just fire again on the turn 'safe' card against unknown here, folding to a raise. not too sure whats up with the c/r but if you have a read you didn't share it could be nice.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

I don't like the c/r on the turn. I know it's possible he might be on a diamond draw but the possibility that you are outkicked makes it a bad spot for the cr in my opinion.

I'd just c/c the turn and prob c/c the river. I like this move a lot more with AK/AQ FWIW
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Old 08-27-2007, 08:50 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

You've got to think about how you'd want the money to go in. This is not the way that should make you happy.
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:22 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

rio = reversed implied odds

i b/f turn w/ block bet on river

something in $14 $24, $30
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

I agree with making it like 14 on the flop and B/F-ing the turn. Also I think c/Ring the turn is terrible.

Playing your hand straightforward gets you max value here. C/Ring just blows him off worse hands and maximizes your losses against better ones.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:48 PM
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You've got to think about how you'd want the money to go in. This is not the way that should make you happy.

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This was the purpose of the post, to illustrate how poorly I setup my bets.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

A check-raise to $55 would have left $118 behind and a pot-size of $161.
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