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Old 08-26-2007, 04:36 PM
Sibelius Sibelius is offline
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Default Bad calls?

CO is a 33/7/2.8
Both blinds are loose-passive (WTSD 50)

.5/1 5-handed
Hero is UTG T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero raises, CO calls, fold, SB calls, BB calls

Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 SB)
check, check, hero bets, CO raises, SB calls, BB calls, hero calls

After a raise and 2 calls, I don't believe I have the best hand. I think i still have to call with 21:1 odds.

Turn: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 BB)
check, check, Hero checks, CO bets, 2 calls, hero calls

Is this call ever correct? If i just win half of the times i catch a club or a ten.. or should i just fold?
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Old 08-26-2007, 04:57 PM
Oink Oink is offline
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Default Re: Bad calls?

Wow, crappy spots.

getting 15:1 you cant fold the flop.

On the turn you have 2 ok set outs and 9 very dirty club outs. Getting 11:1 you need about 4 outs. So if your set outs are worth 1.5 and your club outs are worth about 2.5 the call is about neutral EV.

I would prolly call the turn. But its close and I am far from sure. But it sounds about right that the eprobability of someone having a better fd than you is about 70% to 75% giving you about 2.5 club outs.
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Old 08-26-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Bad calls?

Yeah, hands like this one suck. I always end up calling here, the pot is big but I'm not sure it's big enough to make folding wrong.
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