Bet this river?

[Fnord]

8/16 Half Kill Live.

Tweedle-dee has some concept of pre-flop play, well at least I do see him folding a fair bit, yet I've seen him showdown some really absurd hands at times. Like cold calling 3 with K8s absurd. Anyway, he's a regular and tends to be straight-forward post-flop, but will put in a loose bet if it might win a pot.

Tweedle-LAgg has his heart in the right place. He'd be a medicore TAgg if he could learn to tighten up pre-flop a tad (including his raise range) and read hands a tad better. Been bitching about having difficult to play med/small pairs all day.

Anyway, 3 limpers including Tweedle-dee, Tweedle LAgg completes, I raise Red Kings and everyone calls.

Flop: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Tweedle LAgg bets, I raise, Tweedle-dee calls, everyone else folds to Tweedle LAgg who calls.

Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Tweedle LAgg checks, I bet, they both call.

River: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Tweedle LAgg checks, I check...

[Mike]

Nasty flop against players like this, uglier turn and river. I don't read minds, but I think they are concerned you made a flush. You have to see the end on this hand imo, and in this case I would have bet the river.

[johnnylovescandy]

way ugly. easy check/fold...

[Jeffage]

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and in this case I would have bet the river.

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Gross. I'm sure a big pair is more likely to them than a flush/straight. Plus it's very likely one of them made something - betting into a probable raise seems dumb. I'd check and MAYBE call, but not overcall. If the bettor is pretty passive, I'm probably folding.

Jeff

[Mike]

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Gross. I'm sure a big pair is more likely to them than a flush/straight. Plus it's very likely one of them made something - betting into a probable raise seems dumb. I'd check and MAYBE call, but not overcall. If the bettor is pretty passive, I'm probably folding.

Jeff

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I agree Tweedle-dee may have something but is not doing much with it, TweedleLag has checked twice, he should not have anything he cares to show.

If hero checks, that leaves Tweedle-dee last to act and to make a river bet with any hand, then what?

I would rather bet out. If Tweedle-dee really has a big hand I would expect a raise coming back to me and I could fold. Either way it's one bet on the river.

[KitCloudkicker]

i dont bet

[Frond]

Looks good here. I C/C it here in this spot. As much as I am trying to not get too passive with my big pair hands lately, I still C/C this. I don't know, I'm sure some will say that villain doesn't have a diamond or a str8 card and that this is a V bet here since he checked to us.

[Ricks]

Terrible river card. FD just came in as well as a GS. Any OESD may have made two pairs. Even though, players like this could have been playing A7,A6,A5,K7s,K6s,K5,etc.

I Stoved this and was a little surprised. I didn't even put in all the possible busted heart flush possibilities because it is a real pain selecting these hands individually but I also probably left out some BD diamond draws.

18 Million games

Board: 7d 6h 4h 2d 5d

Player 1: 30.475% A8s-A3s,KhTh,Kh9h,K8s-K3s,QhJh,QhTh,Qh9h,Q8s-Q3s,JhTh,Jh9h,J8s,Th9h,A8o-A4o
Player 2: 30.265% A8s-A3s,Ah2h,KhTh,Kh9h,K8s-K3s,QhJh,QhTh,Qh9h,Q8s-Q3s,JhTh,Jh9h,J8s,Th9h,A8o-A4o
Player 3 39.260% KdKh


I think that since Tweedle LAgg led this flop his mostly likely hand is a busted FD, busted OESD, or a pair of sevens. If I were first to act I would not bet, but with him checking this river I think there is value in a b/f.

[alfredo]

easy bet! he is on a pair he will much more often than on a str8 or flush!

[shane88888]

I check here and see what happens.