25nl, against shortstack donk with fd facing flop raise

syn · #1 08-25-2007, 02:19 PM

iknow hes not folding a queen, but if i call the pot will bel ike 11 and he will only have 7 behind him, he will surely go all in no matter what, im pretty stuck here, cuz im definitely not folding, doesnt feel right to call and obv doesnt feel right to push either, i would feel better if i had say, KJs but my cards are just too low

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($13.25)
CO ($26.45)
Hero ($27.80)
SB ($17.90)
BB ($25.80)
UTG ($26)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, MP calls $1.

Flop: ($2.85) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2, MP raises to $4.25, Hero raises to $26.55, MP calls $7.75 (All-In).

Turn: ($26.85) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($26.85) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $26.85

whyzze · #2 08-25-2007, 02:42 PM

i know you are on the button and all but this raise is bad when a donkish seeming shortstack has limped.

Other than that you have 12 outs...push is standard

syn · #3 08-25-2007, 02:57 PM

i have this player noted as a really bad player
isnt this the kind of player i want to take it heads up with?

Zifadel · #4 08-25-2007, 03:11 PM

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i have this player noted as a really bad player
isnt this the kind of player i want to take it heads up with?

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When you have the best hand. He will pay you off when you hit. I'm not crazy about going AI on the draw here.

whyzze · #5 08-25-2007, 03:12 PM

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i have this player noted as a really bad player
isnt this the kind of player i want to take it heads up with?

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When you have a hand that is likely to be the best.

Ribsauce · #6 08-25-2007, 04:24 PM

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i have this player noted as a really bad player
isnt this the kind of player i want to take it heads up with?

[/ QUOTE ]Against most bad players you want them heads up but you have to realize you still have to make a hand because bad players like to call a lot. "Bad player" usually doesn't mean "I can play him off a hand" it means "turns 3rd pair at river" 63s isn't quite what you are looking for in this situation.

syn · #7 08-25-2007, 04:50 PM

hmm goood point i understand
so a hand like K9o would definitely be much more optimal in this situation
what if this same player was fullstack+? is this pf isolation good?