crazy live 300 max hand, 400bb deep...

[.KeviN.]

ok both stacks weren't 400bbs, effective stacks were about 225 bb. this is a hand that went down at my table wondering what you guys all think/put on both players. Both players have been at the table for around 5 hours with each other...

player A had around $850- more towards the tagg side. Has hasn't gotten out of line and all of the big pots he's won he's shown down big hands.

player B had around $450- pretty solid. semi tight hasn't been too agg and hasn't gotten out of line yet. Doesn't over value his hands and knows when he's second best and is careful.


$300 max 1/2 NL

preflop:
lagg/donkish MP2 raises to $7, MP3 (player A) reraises to $25, folds to BB (player B) who raises to $50 total, donk folds, player A calls $25 more

flop ($107): Js,9s,2x
player B checks, player A thinks and checks

turn: 8x
player B checks, player A bets $50, player B calls

river($207): 5x, board is Js,9s,2h,8d,5h
player B bets $50, player A pretty quickly shoves AI for about $250 more to player B.

What are your opinions on every single street? What I mean is try and evaluate each player's range preflop,then flop, etc. Keep in mind that neither player is your typical live ssnl donk.

[.KeviN.]

cmon. bump.

[orange]

this is a hard hand to evaluate due to:
-live reads and your perception on each of them.
-no history of each player (again, reads). and this hand is very weird too.

but:

pf: player b has a big hand. AK/AA/KK/maybe QQ i think. player A's range is still wide given stacks.

flop: player b- QQ (scared of JJ)/AK/i think he would typically bet with AA/KK unless he's a vag. hand ranges are still undefined due to checks.

turn: b still same range, A, his range is again still very wide (might sense weakness). i dont think either range is defined yet. B shows some interest and again might have something like QQ still, maybe TT.

river: B's blocker shows something weak again. i would put his range at like TT/QQ/sometimes a huge vag played AA/KK, etc. A's range is still wide varied from bluffs to monsters.

in summary, this hand is too hard to comment on due to unknown reads and ranges and too strangely played for great comments.

[bunga]

my head just exploded trying to decipher what the [censored] you were trying to get at with this post.

[KingGeedorah]

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[MindGamez]

umm so... player b checks/calls/block bets and player a check/bets/shoves. player a could do this with anything. player b... if you say hes good then its a fake block bet with JJ.

[Nielsio]

Looks like they both suck.

[spivey]

TT for BB, AsQs for MP3. I'm assuming they're both donks. What do I win?

[forshure]

This is live 1/2 FR. Player A still three bet someone so hes like QQ+, and might three bet there with like JJ AK like 50% of the time, unless youve seen him three bet more then the standard 1/2 live player (ie approx never) and player B has like the exact same range.

[.KeviN.]

this is the first time ive ever seen player b reraise let alone 4 bet. i put his range on kk or aa, i really couldn't see him having jacks pf or after watching the action on the turn. i mean this guys not great hes just a decent player. player a is the best player in the world and put the guy on kk or qq and figured hed fold to the riv shove.

i was player a.. with obv nothing. what do you think of the play?