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Old 08-24-2007, 11:03 PM
Holdem_Hussl4 Holdem_Hussl4 is offline
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Default Re: Aces 3way = Time to fold\'em in hold\'em?

Yeah you know what I guess queens could be in his range here as well. With that AF it his flat call could very well mean queens.

I think a set is more likely though.
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: Aces 3way = Time to fold\'em in hold\'em?

My final thought process was this: Queens are in his range here. WTF is he doing overcalling with a set. 3way pot, someone must be flushing here. I call.

If he had 3bet the flop I could have folded but as played I think I call most of the time without a read telling me otherwise.
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: Aces 3way = Time to fold\'em in hold\'em?

i don't know. i think the way the hand played out, there's just really not much of any way that you can get away from this. i mean, yeah, this guy is passive, but that doesn't mean he's incapable of realising that if he calls your big raise here that he's playing for all of his chips. if he can't bring himself to folding, sometimes he's just gonna say "[censored] it" and put the rest of his money in with a Jx, or whatever it is that he doesn't want to fold.

i agree that you're usually beat here, but i think that you should still pay it off for that price.
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:34 PM
Holdem_Hussl4 Holdem_Hussl4 is offline
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Default Re: Aces 3way = Time to fold\'em in hold\'em?

I see where your coming from hennerz.
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:08 AM
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Default Re: Aces 3way = Time to fold\'em in hold\'em?

At first look my first opinion was to fold but i think the pot odds of 3 to 1 are good for a call here. There are so many draws and he could also have AJ.
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: Aces 3way = Time to fold\'em in hold\'em?

shove
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Aces 3way = Time to fold\'em in hold\'em?

This is at least a breakeven call. Sample size is too small imo to put him on 2p+ kinda range. He can even do this with KK.
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: Aces 3way = Time to fold\'em in hold\'em?

I would call since he could be shoving his money in with some form of straight/flush draw

That or he has a set or like 65

Either way though you have decent odds and donkeys do stupid [censored]
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: Aces 3way = Time to fold\'em in hold\'em?

Ye, almost always a set.
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: Aces 3way = Time to fold\'em in hold\'em?

QQ and KK do not cold call the flop they reraise and AJ prolly folds preflop

I guess he COULD be completely awful and have QQ I just don't see somebody cold calling with QQ and then shoving versus your strength
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