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#11
08-24-2007, 10:44 PM
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Re: $220 bdubs shoves j2s
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] he didn't show it, someone called. i just cut off the hh. anyone? pudge? ddbeast? i know bdubs is a big winner and i wouldn't have shoved here. [/ QUOTE ] What makes you think he's a big winner? He's been average at best from what I've seen and definitely tilty. This shove is horrible. [/ QUOTE ] mainly sharkscope. hes +40k over 1200 games [/ QUOTE ] He's up another 79K through 6K games on Stars. He's definitely a winner, but this still looks like a bold push. 
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#12
08-25-2007, 08:55 AM
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Re: $220 bdubs shoves j2s
*stack is threatening enough to warrent folds from a decent range of hands ( much more so then after a round of blinds ).
*bb may be less apt to defend (gamble ) then other players *shover also pushes monsters here to complete his range warrenting the above folds.
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#13
08-25-2007, 09:34 AM
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Re: $220 bdubs shoves j2s
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*stack is threatening enough to warrent folds from a decent range of hands ( much more so then after a round of blinds ). *bb may be less apt to defend (gamble ) then other players *shover also pushes monsters here to complete his range warrenting the above folds. [/ QUOTE ] QFH
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#14
08-25-2007, 09:45 AM
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Re: $220 bdubs shoves j2s
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Ha ha. You can disagree with a lot of stuff I say. But find me a winning player who disagrees with that. [/ QUOTE ]Hey Suzzer- I'm a winning player though maybe not at that level. Check my math above and tell me where i'm going wrong. While I'm not 100% that this is a great push, its certainly not as clear of a fold as you're making it out to be.
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#15
08-25-2007, 10:30 AM
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Re: $220 bdubs shoves j2s
The push is bad and there's really no way to defend it.
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#16
08-25-2007, 10:45 AM
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Re: $220 bdubs shoves j2s
If I was on the button I would push here at the low-stakes, though not at these stakes as I assume SB/BB have too wide calling ranges. Not saying my opinion counts for anything and I havn't checked SNGPT but I think pushing from the button is +ev (not sure from the CO).
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#17
08-25-2007, 11:08 AM
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Re: $220 bdubs shoves j2s
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The push is bad and there's really no way to defend it. [/ QUOTE ]Could someone just put them on a range that's different from the one above and do the math?
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#18
08-25-2007, 11:27 AM
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Re: $220 bdubs shoves j2s
Looks like a simple short stack push to buy the blinds or get in a pot with 2.5:1 odds. I don't understand the confusion.
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#19
08-25-2007, 12:06 PM
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Re: $220 bdubs shoves j2s
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[ QUOTE ] *stack is threatening enough to warrent folds from a decent range of hands ( much more so then after a round of blinds ). *bb may be less apt to defend (gamble ) then other players *shover also pushes monsters here to complete his range warrenting the above folds. [/ QUOTE ] QFH [/ QUOTE ] ah well, i tried...and i dont think im especially wrong. would you please give me some insight!?
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#20
08-25-2007, 12:16 PM
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Re: $220 bdubs shoves j2s
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] *stack is threatening enough to warrent folds from a decent range of hands ( much more so then after a round of blinds ). *bb may be less apt to defend (gamble ) then other players *shover also pushes monsters here to complete his range warrenting the above folds. [/ QUOTE ] QFH [/ QUOTE ] ah well, i tried...and i dont think im especially wrong. would you please give me some insight!? [/ QUOTE ] ICM
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