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Old 08-24-2007, 05:44 PM
darinvg darinvg is offline
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Default $225: JJ early

Raiser: 31.8/8 250 hands; Flat caller: 28/9 315 hands. Neither one seemed good.

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UTG (t1670)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1560)
MP2 (t1470)
MP3 (t1530)
CO (t1400)
Hero (t1510)
SB (t1430)
BB (t1430)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t150</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, CO calls t150, Hero calls t150, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t495) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">UTG bets t240</font>, CO calls t240, <font color="red">Hero raises to t1360 (All-in)</font>
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Old 08-24-2007, 06:16 PM
Scotty_12 Scotty_12 is offline
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Default Re: $225: JJ early

I play it the same. You should be way ahead of CO and utg flop bet = weakish.
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Old 08-24-2007, 06:20 PM
charlieD charlieD is offline
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Default Re: $225: JJ early

looks good, but i may stick it all in pre against those villains
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Old 08-25-2007, 01:04 AM
ryanghall ryanghall is offline
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Default Re: $225: JJ early

Yuck. I guess the push is fine. Do NOT stick it in preflop.

Ryan
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Old 08-25-2007, 06:05 AM
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Default Re: $225: JJ early

i really dont like this at all really. level 1 vs a 5x bb utg raise im probably calling for set value and folding when i miss, even as an overpair. if i flatted with 99, and the flop came 357 im also folding, and this is essentially the same thing.
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:34 AM
freeucm freeucm is offline
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Default Re: $225: JJ early

Yeah i probably do it the same way, run into a set of tens?
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Old 08-25-2007, 08:23 AM
alessandro59 alessandro59 is offline
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Default Re: $225: JJ early

I shove v UTG on his own, but hate CO's flat call. Shoving here you most likely are way ahead of UTG but only really beat CO's A10 or a flush draw type of hand. Stinks of a set imo. What was outcome?
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:00 AM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default Re: $225: JJ early

i play it the same but only because you think these two players are bad.
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:56 PM
billybeartku billybeartku is offline
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Default Re: $225: JJ early

i play it the same but i wouldn't be happy when get called. JJ is very hard to play on this spot. Since utg is 31.8/8, which means he only raises top 8% of hands and your JJ isn't that much ahead of his raising range. He could've value bet flop bet w/ KK or AA or even TT. I think w/ QQ he might have bet the pot size, so that 1/2 pot size bet on the flop looks like either a cbet w/ AK AQ(which is less likely against two ppl to act behind him) OR he's value cbet w/ KK or AA. just my opinion, please correct me if I'm wrong.
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