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Old 08-24-2007, 04:38 AM
Fonkey123 Fonkey123 is offline
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Default Re: AK strong line from villan

Shouldn't he be 4betting AA/KK 200bb deep? I imagine that's the default.
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: AK strong line from villan

AFAIK these games play the same as a 100BB stack correct?

if that is the case, i dont mind calling and shoving any turn that is a brick
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:58 AM
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Default Re: AK strong line from villan

if you have no feel for his hand range folding is fine, but just fold now. also please dont check this flop.
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: AK strong line from villan

reraising an utg raiser and getting checkraised by him on the flop means ur destroyed almost all the time, fold flop
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Old 08-24-2007, 06:14 AM
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Default Re: AK strong line from villan

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Calling his c/r and folding later is terrible, I would just fold immediately. I also wouldn't bet flop. Also I like just calling PF with these stacks against an UTG open.

How did this guy double up?

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I must be missing something. Why dont you bet this flop?
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Old 08-24-2007, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: AK strong line from villan

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Calling his c/r and folding later is terrible, I would just fold immediately. I also wouldn't bet flop. Also I like just calling PF with these stacks against an UTG open.

How did this guy double up?

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I must be missing something. Why dont you bet this flop?

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Because we are 200 bbs deep, we have TPTK and we actually don't want to play this for stacks. Most of the time we will be beat/ splitting when all the money goes in here.
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Old 08-24-2007, 06:18 AM
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Default Re: AK strong line from villan

erm... bet for protection ? Without reads, or history villians range is HUGE - forget that he check raise flop... when he checks you should bet.
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: AK strong line from villan

Citing "200bbs deep" as a reason to not fold here really sucks.

Orange would never be able to bet the flop then :P I'm pretty much with xorbie, I'm 3betting or folding now...but I probably 3bet.
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: AK strong line from villan

I think just calling preflop needs to be considered.

As played, I three-bet the flop a lot, but I have mixed feelings about it vs. reasonable players at these depths.
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: AK strong line from villan

It's Abs, fold.
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