$16 1st hand AQ tptk multiway on draw-heavy board

Sober · #1 08-21-2007, 10:30 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
CO (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, MP1 calls t20, MP2 calls t20, Hero calls t20, 1 fold, Button calls t20, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t140) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets t60, MP2 calls t60, Hero raises to t260, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to t460, MP2 calls t400, Hero?

No reads, as it's 1st hand, but I know both villains are single-tabling.

Do I push this hoping both villains are on the same draw, killing some of their outs? A combo draw is roughly a coinflip here, right? So %50 showdown value + FE = good push? Or am I usually crushed here?

hoyasaxa · #2 08-21-2007, 10:32 PM

Youre so beat here. One of them either flopped a set or limped 10J. There is no way that AQ is good with a bet, call, raises, and overcall. Even if one of them is on a draw, the other has you beat. I fold and dont think twice.

Austiger · #3 08-21-2007, 10:33 PM

I'd just call the flop. Now you have to fold, and it really shouldn't be a question. You are always crushed here.

xSCWx · #4 08-21-2007, 10:33 PM

You are definitely looking for runner runner here. Fold.

Sober · #5 08-21-2007, 10:40 PM

Alright, I guess I was running so hot tonight that I figured I was good pretty often here, this being a $16. Tilt works both ways.

But, for BBV purposes, here's the result:

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Hero raises to t1480, MP1 calls t1020 (All-In), MP2 calls t1020 (All-In).

Turn: (t4580) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t4580) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t4580

MP1 has Kc 6c (high card, king).
MP2 has 3c Jc (two pair, jacks and threes).
Hero has Ad Qh (one pair, queens).
Outcome: MP2 wins t4580.

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xSCWx · #6 08-21-2007, 10:46 PM

Thats what I put them on. My post was a misclick.

Austiger · #7 08-21-2007, 10:53 PM

If you're going to play it like that, raise PF!

WCGRider · #8 08-22-2007, 01:22 AM

um he had a gutshot? Who isnt calling there (MP2)

JeffreyN · #9 08-23-2007, 07:59 PM

I raise pre flop to 120 or let it go . Post flop when you were re raised and then a overcall I have to figure my top pair is beat.

PokahPokah · #10 08-23-2007, 09:16 PM

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Hero raises to t1480, MP1 calls t1020 (All-In), MP2 calls t1020 (All-In).

Turn: (t4580) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t4580) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t4580

MP1 has Kc 6c (high card, king).
MP2 has 3c Jc (two pair, jacks and threes).
Hero has Ad Qh (one pair, queens).
Outcome: MP2 wins t4580.

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