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Old 08-23-2007, 05:39 PM
darinvg darinvg is offline
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Default $114: neg ev bubble call

Villain is a pretty good regular. He's been owning and is pushing ATCs. SNGPT says -0.9%. Anyone with me?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t600 with t50 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t2580)
Button (t1535)
SB (t7260)
Hero (t2125)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t3600</font>, Hero calls t1475 (All-in)
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: $114: neg ev bubble call

The button is going to get blinded out first, looks like a standard fold. Am I missing something?
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: $114: neg ev bubble call

id fold
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: $114: neg ev bubble call

I probably wouldnt, but cant see how it could be -.9 though if he is definitely on ATC.
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: $114: neg ev bubble call

i dont think there is any meta game no matter how many times you play with villian. solid regulars are going to pwn in this spot every time.

you are actually gonna blind out first unless someone does something stupid. so i go ahead and call because neg .9% is a lot better than getting all in with 200 chips and a random hand down the road tring to win a coinflip or worse if you get allin vs two opponents.
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: $114: neg ev bubble call

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i dont think there is any meta game no matter how many times you play with villian. solid regulars are going to pwn in this spot every time.

you are actually gonna blind out first unless someone does something stupid. so i go ahead and call because neg .9% is a lot better than getting all in with 200 chips and a random hand down the road tring to win a coinflip or worse if you get allin vs two opponents.

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Old 08-23-2007, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: $114: neg ev bubble call

I knew I had to have missed something, I thought the other guy was blinding out first. Time to go back into obscurity [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]!
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:55 PM
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I knew I had to have missed something, I thought the other guy was blinding out first. Time to go back into obscurity [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]!

[/ QUOTE ]remember that you're losing 650 to blinds and antes this round and 350 the next.
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:55 PM
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I knew I had to have missed something, I thought the other guy was blinding out first. Time to go back into obscurity [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]!

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Rarely do these things get into a folding contest. Button is going to be down to 525 after the blinds go through him. They almost always take a stand in there somewhere, or you get a real hand, or a chance to overcall when button is all in, etc. This is a bad call any way you slice it.
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:05 PM
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yeah I don't like this call at all. agree with suzzer.
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