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Old 08-23-2007, 01:46 PM
atlwindsurf atlwindsurf is offline
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Default Big draw in bb, nl25, what to do?

Just sat down at this table, no read.
Should I reraise the flop? maybe raise more at the turn?, as played, do you call the river bet?
I seem to run into this plenty in the last couple of days.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($25)
UTG ($13.75)
MP ($15.45)
CO ($11.55)
Button ($26.15)
SB ($23)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.85) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1.5</font>, Hero calls $0.75.

Turn: ($3.85) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, Button calls $6.

River: ($21.85) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $15.4 (All-In)</font>, Hero ??????

Final Pot: $50.35
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:52 PM
Snafu'd Snafu'd is offline
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Default Re: Big draw in bb, nl25, what to do?

You should be pushing this river instead of checking. I raise more on the turn for sure, probably up to $11 or $12. As played, obvious river call.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Big draw in bb, nl25, what to do?

Reraise flop (if reraised again - push - you have the better hand pretty much independently of what he has on flop), bet turn once hit, bet river - get all the value you can from your hand.

As played, if you're not betting because you want to induce a bluff or a bet from a weaker hand, obviously c/c. I don't think you can fold to that bet just because you're scared of a full house. You beat trips, a lower straight or a busted FD, so you're good.
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Old 08-23-2007, 01:56 PM
You're No Daisy You're No Daisy is offline
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Default Re: Big draw in bb, nl25, what to do?

The way villain played this hand looks to me like he believes you're on a flush draw and put you all in on the river thinking you missed. I think this is an easy call. The reasoning behind my line is the min raise on the flop and the call on the turn. He might have something like AT-KT and think his TTT is good.

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Old 08-23-2007, 02:10 PM
atlwindsurf atlwindsurf is offline
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Default Re: Big draw in bb, nl25, what to do?

This was just one of those 10 hands I played during lunch break and I hate to think when I'm playing those. I think I should have raised more at the turn as soon as I hit that raise button.
As played, my main question is, is there ever any value in betting the river at this level? Sets just boat up, only trips will call me and everything else will fold to my bet, right?
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:25 PM
Hail Eris Hail Eris is offline
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Default Re: Big draw in bb, nl25, what to do?

Shove river.
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:52 PM
Vedocorban Vedocorban is offline
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Default Re: Big draw in bb, nl25, what to do?

Check-folding isn't an option on this river. Your only concern on the river is to check/call, check/raise if villain doesn't go all in, or to open shove yourself. Since you've already checked, thank your lucky stars that villain didn't check behind and then instacall.

Also put in a healthy three bet on the flop.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:00 PM
VivaHate VivaHate is offline
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Default Re: Big draw in bb, nl25, what to do?

Try to get the money in on the flop, as played insta call you're way ahead of his range, I expect to see AT KT here.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:03 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: Big draw in bb, nl25, what to do?

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You should be pushing this river instead of checking. I raise more on the turn for sure, probably up to $11 or $12. As played, obvious river call.

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agree completely.
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