NL25 Flush+Str8 Draw on turn

[Shephard]

no reads on villian they both just sat down, what should hero do on the turn, i guess i have at least 12 outs but i dont think i have much FE, so i dont really like shoving here

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

BB ($17.95)
UTG ($9.75)
UTG+1 ($30.20)
MP1 ($22.80)
MP2 ($32.95)
Hero ($25)
CO ($5)
Button ($44.85)
SB ($16.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with , . CO posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, 4 folds, UTG calls $1, MP1 calls $1.

Flop: ($4.35) , , (3 players)
UTG checks, MP1 bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, UTG calls $1.75.

Turn: ($9.60) (3 players)
UTG checks, MP1 bets $3.5, Hero ?

[Teddie]

Raise too $10 call a shove?


P.S why 12 outs? 9 for FD and 8 for SD is it not?

[CaptVimes]

9 for the flush, 6 for the straight, your counting the T and 5 of diamonds twice Teddie. You also should discount your flush outs a bit because its not to the nutz so 12 or 13 seems ok.

If you have no FE, just call you only need 2.5to1 and your getting over 4to1(your making money). If you shove and UTG folds, which I think is likely, the pot size will be 13.1 and MP1 will have 16.30 left. Your risking 22 to win 29 which gives you 1.33to1, you need a lot of fold equity to make up for your loss of odds.

[Teddie]

Ah yes, forgot about that. Cheers.

[CazicT]

I think I agree the fold equity probably isn't there so I guess i'd just call with the great odds i'm being offered and hope to hit a black 5, no one would see it coming.

I think the raise PF is a bit dubious IMO. I'd rather be in late pos. I guess if your game is really weak it is probably OK so whatever works for you.

[ryang]

I think raising the turn would be dumb? Is it not? I'd call turn and if river blanks then we can get away from it, no?