Conspire`s 9/11 Conspiracies

[revots33]

I generally scorn conspiracy theories, but Flight 93 in particular has always bothered me.

Picture the scenario:

Planes already hit WTC and Pentagon.
Fighter jets scrambled.
Flight 93 hijacked and apparently on its way to attack another target.

Now, what makes a more feel-good story for the American people:

1. US Air Force shoots down a passenger jet filled with civilians?
2. Passengers on hijacked jet heroically fight back and bring down the jet, sacrificing themselves to save untold others?

Given reports I've read from eyewitnesses in the area, it seems extremely possible that the jet was shot down, and the "Let's Roll" phone call was used to fabricate a more palatable story.

Not sure why people think it landed - as conspiracies go, it being shot down seems to make more sense given the events of the day.

[tuq]

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Given reports I've read from eyewitnesses in the area, it seems extremely possible that the jet was shot down, and the "Let's Roll" phone call was used to fabricate a more palatable story.

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I'd be interested in the eyewitness accounts, but basically they're either going to say a plane crashed or did not crash. Very binary. As for the "let's roll" thing, that implies a whole 'nother layer of conspiracy - by the families of the dead - which seems implausible to me.

[revots33]

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As for the "let's roll" thing, that implies a whole 'nother layer of conspiracy - by the families of the dead - which seems implausible to me.

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Not necessarily... I don't doubt the "let's roll" call was actually made. Does that mean they actually succeeded in getting into the cockpit and forcing down the plane? Not necessarily.

[SmokeyRidesAgain]

What about the bombs planted on the george washington bridge! Four non-arabs arrested during the emergency, then it disappeared from the news

[Ron Burgundy]

Tony Gambino talks about mob connections to 9/11, JFK, Hollywood, and the Vatican

Interview starts at about 1:10.

[David H]

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What about the bombs planted on the george washington bridge! Four non-arabs arrested during the emergency, then it disappeared from the news

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I would like to hear more about this. I never really knew what IT was referencing with this line.

[TomE.]

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As for the "let's roll" thing, that implies a whole 'nother layer of conspiracy - by the families of the dead - which seems implausible to me.

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Why couldn't both have happened - the "let's roll" call was made, they barreled into the cockpit just as the plane was being shot down? Even if the guys were successful in overthrowing their captors, the chances of them landing the plane with no experience would be slim to none. Knowing this, and given the remote area which 93 (apparently) went down, it seems almost a given the plane was taken down by our side. The "good of the one isn't bigger than the good of the many" thing. I'd heard 93 was headed towards the Sears Tower in Chicago, but a security guard acquaintance of mine was working the RenCen in Detroit on 9-11, and they were told to start evacuating people. If 93 doesn't somehow crash or get shot down on the way to one of these supposed targets, a bunch more people were in danger than were in that plane. It ain't pretty but it makes sense.

[tuq]

You both make good points. Thanks.

I think I was letting my head get wrapped around the whole "landed safely" thing and wasn't addressing the possibility that it got shot down. THAT is a theory I could buy into fairly easily barring evidence to the contrary.

I had to go to BBV4L last night and troll Conspire to get him back here on the flight 93 thing, but he still hasn't delivered on this matter.

[AquaSwing]

There is zero reason to believe that 93 landed safely. I don't think we'll ever know the last 15 minutes of what happened with regard to being shot down or not. Didn't the black box indicate lot of yelling in the cockpit prior to the crash?

I'm inclined to say it was shot down and I think they were justified in doing so. It was well known at that time that three planes had already hit their target and this was on its way to a fourth. Knowing that all onboard were going to die either way, better to take out a giant field than the Capitol/White House or wherever it was headed.

BTW, the Pentagon was a really dumb target seeing that it's one of the stongest buildings ever built.

[Copernicus]

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There is zero reason to believe that 93 landed safely. I don't think we'll ever know the last 15 minutes of what happened with regard to being shot down or not. Didn't the black box indicate lot of yelling in the cockpit prior to the crash?

I'm inclined to say it was shot down and I think they were justified in doing so. It was well known at that time that three planes had already hit their target and this was on its way to a fourth. Knowing that all onboard were going to die either way, better to take out a giant field than the Capitol/White House or wherever it was headed.

BTW, the Pentagon was a really dumb target seeing that it's one of the stongest buildings ever built.

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If it had been shot down there would be no reason to hide it. The potential for taking out a commercial jet in a hijacking was well known and the circumstances would have certainly justified it. All of this is a bunch of nonsense a thinking HS student should see through.