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Old 08-22-2007, 04:45 PM
MoP_86 MoP_86 is offline
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Default 50NL :KK: Value bet river?

Villain is 20/16/2 over 150 hands.

I put him on something like 66-TT and yet I still couldnt bring myself to value bet the river... do you?


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MP ($53.70)
Button ($113.65)
SB ($56.60)
BB ($53.70)
Hero ($75.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.5</font>, SB calls $3.50.

Turn: ($11.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $21</font>, Hero calls $14.

River: ($53.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $53.50


My flop and turn bets are a little smallish but I felt if he did have a smaller pp he wouldnt have called pot size bets.
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Old 08-22-2007, 04:53 PM
pkrPlayerBr pkrPlayerBr is offline
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Default Re: 50NL :KK: Value bet river?

This play would make me think he has exactly the range you are talking about. I would certainly bet $14 on the river after him checking.
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: 50NL :KK: Value bet river?

Villain's turn line looks much stronger than a medium pp to me. Certainly I think 66 and 77 are out, unless he is pulling a move based on a read, although I think that if villain were going to get cute with 66/77 he'd more likely do it on flop. That leaves 88-QQ. I think JJ/QQ from this villain are unlikely as we'd have heard about them by now probably.

So we beat 99-QQ/air and we lose to sets/straights (SC's aren't impossible). Dunno, I think I weight both those alternatives kinda equally given turn and to me that makes river vb marginal.

And it looks to me more like the h on the end spooked villain when he considered your turn call.
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: 50NL :KK: Value bet river?

fold on turn unless u have a read
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