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AA question based on Professional No Limit reading
After reading most of this book i am finding it quite interesting. However I am not certain i am interpreting the advice correctly.
A hand example in 1/2 $200 stacks. An average player raises to 8$, i re-raise to $35 and still get a call. The pot is now $70 so stack to pot ratio is 4.7 approx. In this case i should be happy to get it All in if i flop an overpair (which with Aces is going to happen). Problem i have is my hand is pretty transparent and if anyone wants to get all in there is a very high likelyhood i am beat and this is where i think it falls down. Any comments, especially from anyone who has read the book? |
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Re: AA question based on Professional No Limit reading
well, this would only be transparent if youre only playing AA this way (which shouldnt be the case.) and if your opponents are paying attention and reading you correctly (which also shouldnt be the case.)
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Re: AA question based on Professional No Limit reading
and anyway they are paying a very high price to see a flop, even if you 3b to $25 (more realistic) then you have priced them out for set mining.
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Re: AA question based on Professional No Limit reading
"Problem i have is my hand is pretty transparent"
Just 3bet loads of hands and then your hand won't be transparent. And as SinkRox said, if you 3bet, turned over your hand and said that you were going AI on the flop no matter what, they wouldn't have odds to call so you'll still make money if they call you preflop. |
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Re: AA question based on Professional No Limit reading
The process isn't just "I have aces, big pot, see flop, aww eeeeeen."
It's: 1. What range will he call X-sized reraises with? 2. What range will he stack off with for X pots on the flop? 3. Will my expected overpair beat that stack off range? 4. Where's the sweet spot in that interaction? The sweet spot is a target SPR. There's a great summary in the Books thread. Basically, the book is about the dynamics of three kinds of pots, big, medium and small. With one pair hands, you either want to play big pots against opponents who will commit with worse, or you want to play small pots against opponents who wont commit without better. You don't want to play medium pots, because you end up wondering what to do on the turn in a reraised pot facing a turn checkraise w/ aces on a T-high board. |
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Re: AA question based on Professional No Limit reading
most poker books i have read are totally useless when it comes to online 6max no limit, and pretty terrible in general. i dont know the book you are talking about but from the example you gave it sounds like this book is no exception.
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Re: AA question based on Professional No Limit reading
if three betting pre means its transparent u have AA KK then this book is completely inaccplicable to online poker where good players have extremely wide three betting ranges
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Re: AA question based on Professional No Limit reading
I agree however if i then bet the flop i am effectivley saying yes i did have AA/KK and if they then shove they are saying yes i know and call this other 0.75 buy in bet and give me the money I have you beat.
So even if they made a mistake pre-flop am i not then making another when i am pretty certain they have me beat by calling the All in? |
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