$27 butchered AK.. flame away. 4bet shove PF?

playsmart · #1 08-21-2007, 06:15 PM

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UTG (t1285)
UTG+1 (t1425)
MP1 (t2075)
Hero (t1415)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1415)
Button (t1400)
SB (t1400)
BB (t1585)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to t125, 2 folds, Button raises to t400, 2 folds, Hero calls t275.

Flop: (t875) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t1000 (All-In), Hero folds.

Insty · #2 08-21-2007, 08:15 PM

Why did you raise to 125 preflop?

playsmart · #3 08-21-2007, 08:19 PM

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Why did you raise to 125 preflop?

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2.5x raises make for small cbets when HU on the flop.

koreanzulu · #4 08-21-2007, 08:28 PM

I shove or fold pf, depending on the villains previous aggression. I'm leaning more towards a fold, unless villian is a lagtard. I think the lowest of the villians range here is going to be AQs and most of the time your going to see hands like TT+ IMO.

taipan168 · #5 08-21-2007, 08:30 PM

At this level I make it 150 to go preflop, particularly when you're in MP. The last thing you want is to get 3 callers.

As played, maybe I am weak/tight but I think you played it fine. Whilst I am not delighted to call off more than a quarter of my chips when I'm seeing the flop OOP, you usually have very little FE against those sorts of structured re-raises, it is often AA or KK and even if it isn't, I don't think you have pot odds to take the wrong end of a flip here.

Insty · #6 08-21-2007, 08:37 PM

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Why did you raise to 125 preflop?

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2.5x raises make for small cbets when HU on the flop.

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You didn't cbet...

Insty · #7 08-21-2007, 08:39 PM

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you usually have very little FE against those sorts of structured re-raises, it is often AA or KK and even if it isn't, I don't think you have pot odds to take the wrong end of a flip here.

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Then why call the preflop reraise?

taipan168 · #8 08-21-2007, 09:13 PM

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you usually have very little FE against those sorts of structured re-raises, it is often AA or KK and even if it isn't, I don't think you have pot odds to take the wrong end of a flip here.

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Then why call the preflop reraise?

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Because if you just flat call and the flop comes A or K high, you get your chips in knowing that you're ahead of TT-QQ (and other lower PPs). I'd be happier getting it in on an A high rather than K high flop obv.

allhappythoughts · #9 08-21-2007, 09:13 PM

2.5x might mean smaller cbets HU on the flop, but 2.5x from MP doesn't really increase the possibility that you'll get there. From LP it's okay I think. Here, if one guy calls you might induce a large string of calls and then you end up with a bloated pot against multiple opponents and you will likely have to throw a strong starting hand away.

As for the reraise, I'd likely fold. You have very little FE, it's fairly early and you have a decent stack. Reads help here a lot, and without them I think I'll let it go.

#10 08-21-2007, 09:21 PM

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At this level I make it 150 to go preflop, particularly when you're in MP. The last thing you want is to get 3 callers.

As played, maybe I am weak/tight but I think you played it fine. Whilst I am not delighted to call off more than a quarter of my chips when I'm seeing the flop OOP, you usually have very little FE against those sorts of structured re-raises, it is often AA or KK and even if it isn't, I don't think you have pot odds to take the wrong end of a flip here.

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I just threw up in my mouth a little bit,

If any read/stats i Fold or push (leaning towards fold imo), Never JUST CALL HERE.

As played I'm tempted to push but I don't think your opponent ever folds. Therefore I think i just c/f/

c/f>>>>push>>>>>c/c