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Old 08-21-2007, 03:23 PM
Galwegian Galwegian is offline
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Default 25NL - EP QQ facing reraise

This hand is a specific example of a situation that I find problematic (its kind of basic, but I really don't know what to do in these spots). Against an unknown villain, with deep stacks (>100BB) what line do you take if your early position JJ/QQ is reraised preflop? Rereraise? Call for set value and checkfold a missed flop. What kind of range do you put the villain on here? Maybe AK-AQ, AA-JJ or is that too tight?


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($47.60)
MP3 ($25.55)
CO ($30.65)
Button ($23.90)
SB ($4.40)
BB ($24.75)
UTG ($18.95)
Hero ($36.10)
MP1 ($7)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.15.

Flop: ($4.35) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $4.35</font>, Hero calls $4.35.

Turn: ($13.05) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $6</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $13.05
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:29 PM
uminchu uminchu is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - EP QQ facing reraise

tought spot, your three bet range is probably pretty close, maybe TT+ but still then your only beating it and JJ so folding cant be terrible here

i think i bet fold the turn though
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Old 08-21-2007, 05:53 PM
ship_it_trebek ship_it_trebek is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - EP QQ facing reraise

Annoying spot, I'm not too worried about AK or AQ double barreling here though. The problem is that a typical NL25 villain will play AA and 99 exactly the same way on this board. Its the "zomg overpair=nuts" line that many NL25 players have. Calling for set value and check/folding the flop is far too weak IMO. As played calling on the turn basically commits you to calling most rivers. His turn bet is only 1/2 pot which is a little strange.

I'd consider 4betting preflop to ~7.5 and obviously fold to a shove. At least you will most likely know where you are at after that move.
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