Really interesting 5/10 hand every street

[ata]

You put his range strongly on QQ+? That is a sick spot for him to steal... I'm reraising for stacks pf unless he's a complete nit with those squeezes (which his stats don't indicate).

[Montezuma21]

Jfish and others-

are we checking for pot control (because i don't think this can be done in a 3bet pot on the flop because villain can put us AI by the river by betting turn and river) or to induce a turn bluff? or were we calling purely for set value PF? my std play here is to bet-fold , so i'm very interested in what others have to say.

[AAismyfriend]

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My standard play is to check, have an ace come on the turn, and slam my face into my desk.

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lol so true

[xorbie]

i feel like a small bet on the flop is more theoretically correct than a check.

[cero_z]

Hey green lemur,

Too deep to shove JJ pre there even in a pretty clear squeezing spot, IMO. I like a shove with 100BBs or less, though. A 4-bet is probably my preferred play there, but I also run laggier than that guy, so people prolly give me less credit than they'd give you, which is a good thing in this spot.

On the flop, I'd check if I wasn't prepared to get the money in, and bet 1/2 pot if I was. If I checked the flop behind, I'd likely be going to showdown (and if I bet 1/2 pot, I almost certainly would).

[Teh1337zor]

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My standard play is to check, have an ace come on the turn, and slam my face into my desk.

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lol so true

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[DMoogle]

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Hey green lemur,

Too deep to shove JJ pre there even in a pretty clear squeezing spot, IMO. I like a shove with 100BBs or less, though. A 4-bet is probably my preferred play there, but I also run laggier than that guy, so people prolly give me less credit than they'd give you, which is a good thing in this spot.

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I'd prefer 4-betting (with the intention of playing for stacks) if we were deeper OR (and unfortunately this isn't the case) his RR wasn't as large. His large re-raise would make our 4-bet be large enough to show that we're committed, which means he'd be less likely to 5-bet with a weaker hand (except AK). You sure are at a disadvantage that he probably knows who you are but you don't know who he is. So I believe calling is best.

On the flop I think I would bet 1/2 the pot and, possibly depending on his timing, call a check-raise all-in. I find people are checking here with whiffed overs or a draw more often than a hand that beats us. A 1/2PSB may induce a bluff-raise from overs, and any bet will probably induce a raise if he has a draw.

[DJ Sensei]

Call preflop seems to be the wisest choice. And i'd bet the flop. If he c/r's well thats pretty lame, but I don't think it happens too often. Probably would call it, too, it seems pretty suspicious. Checking behind would be fine if there weren't 12 or more cards to concern us.

[Bill Ivey]

I would bet 2/3rds of the pot on the flop and call an all in. If I check behind I am going to be confused on "later streets" and I would rather get it in here then when something like the 8sp comes on the turn and he has spades, or 89, etc.

[green_lemur]

So it seems there is a bit of disagreeemnt as to the corect flop action. IMO this is a spot where mixing it up is good. I like betting about 2/3 of the time and checking the rest. In this case I checked. Turn brings an interesting card. Thoughts on the push?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($1482)
MP ($1164)
CO ($985)
Button ($3313.42)
SB ($140)
BB ($4208.12)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, MP calls $35, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $35, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $180</font>, Hero calls $145, MP folds, Button folds.

Flop: ($435) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($435) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $377</font>, Hero calls $1302 (All-In)