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Old 08-20-2007, 09:25 PM
qk1234 qk1234 is offline
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

this guy is at a whole different level than u guys.hes like michael jordan. if the competotion improves he just improves more, and still simply dominates. Dont know how he does it but he does.
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

He wears jacket and sunglasses and becomes a statue to hide HIS tells.

The rest is playing TAG and picking his spots and estimating people's cards is not brain surgery, I've made some great reads, just not on TV. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:14 AM
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cuz hes the best tournament player alive, and people refuse to believe it and still challenge him and lose when they should steer VERY clear of him. They let pride get in their way. and they want to impress him so they prob dont play their best. They honestly get more consumed with beating phil a pot and watching him get pissed, than forgeting about him and concntrating that theres a difference of like 250,000 between 1st and 2nd place and they should be 100% focusd on playing their best game, cuz they prob wont be back at a ft for a long time. And when theyre messing with him to try to win a pot from him, they dont realize that all their doing is going out of their way to play pots with a player much better than they are. You dont go out of your way to play pots with the nastiest tourney player alive. I was watching the hellmuth 11th bracelt video on pokertube(check it out entire episode there) and robert williamson was commentating and he was stunned saying" are these players honestly going out of their way to play pots against phil hellmuth? He then says after playing a ton w/ him that hed put hellmuths game against any1's in the world. Stop being haters, give credit where its due. The 9th place finisher said he was really surprised at how good hellmuth was. Said he had all the tricks, etc. He has 2 bracelets in the past 2 years, even with the huge fields but its all "variance" right guys? Phil 2 bracelets in 2 years...uh variance. Allen Cunningham 3 bracelets the past 3 years.... uh variance again. lol These people just refuse to believe that some of these guys are 10 times the player they are. Even though this fact is proven time and time again. Theres like 4 multibracelt winners the past 2 years, and two of those players were considered top 5 players in the world before winning those multibracelets. over 1000 plyers in wsop tournaments and four multibracelt winners in past 2 years, and two of the four winners this "variance" hits just happen to be 2 players who were unanimously considered top 5-10 tournament players in the world!?! are u fn kidding me? they arent unbelievable poker players. variance baby. just variance. Maybe after bracelet 15 people will say you know mayybe this guys is a beast of a tournament player.

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I applaud your brilliant insight. Internet "superstars" with no slow gear continue to drive off cliffs into busto-land every month, and PH keeps working it, killin them all...
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:22 AM
klownage klownage is offline
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

LOL.

There are many ppl who would love to play Hellmuth heads up for a lot of money....

he's very good at tournaments and playing crappy ppl.

It's easy to play 10k tournaments when the top players are playing high stakes cash games...
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:08 AM
McCutter McCutter is offline
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LOL.

There are many ppl who would love to play Hellmuth heads up for a lot of money....

he's very good at tournaments and playing crappy ppl.

It's easy to play 10k tournaments when the top players are playing high stakes cash games...

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whatever. this argument is crap
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

11 wins since '89, some with as few as 63 entrants, probably 350 events entered. No doubt he's good, no doubt variance plays a part.
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:45 AM
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cuz hes the best tournament player alive

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Old 08-21-2007, 04:01 AM
Micro Donk Micro Donk is offline
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

somewhere, somehow, mccutter needs a custom title related to his relentless defense of live pros
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:10 AM
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

Well, it's been said before, but he just crushes poor and mediocre players. He reads really well, especially against someone who isn't a top player and doesn't realize what tells they might have or how obvious they're bets are. Amass enough chips off donks and he's in a good position to win regardless of if he's a little outclassed by some other pros at the final table.

I don't really like his antics, but his ability to just crush amateurs is impressive. I think he outplays donks more skillfully than better players outplay donks, even though Phil can't outplay the better players himself.
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Old 08-21-2007, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: How does Phil Hellmuth win tournaments?

Garmin

Hellmuth is using one of these...
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