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Old 08-20-2007, 01:08 PM
xeanatic xeanatic is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 AK in 3bet pot

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T9hh is also a possible holding for villain.

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Don't think a villian will call a 3bet with that.

Thanks for the explaining, I already thought of it as a bad fold. When I played the hand I thought I only really beat AQ.. and was way behind his range
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Old 08-20-2007, 01:11 PM
corsakh corsakh is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 AK in 3bet pot

Great read, nice fold. Next time please open fold preflop for metagame. Not as good as the other guy folding AA on K high for 100BB, but a close second.
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Old 08-20-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 AK in 3bet pot

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Great read, nice fold. Next time please open fold preflop for metagame. Not as good as the other guy folding AA on K high for 100BB, but a close second.

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haha lol
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:01 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 AK in 3bet pot

I would actually fold, since it looks like JJ for me who is not keen on seeing another heart and donkyraises all in. To be honest, a king doesnt help you and an ace gives him the full house. Obviously a backdoorflush is nothing anyone would go all in for.
The only hand that would justify a call would be a nutflushdraw. Could anyone calculate how often we win vs a nutflushdraw?
I mean seriously what do you guys put him on. TPGK, MPGK? He wouldnt raise you all in after you demonstrated a strong hand with your 3bet from UTG.
As I said I see him on JJ and would almost never call here.
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:18 AM
zer0c0ntr0l1278 zer0c0ntr0l1278 is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 AK in 3bet pot

I agree its a good fold. He's got JJ here. The only other hand i can see this with is a set or AQ. Most likely JJ
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:31 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 AK in 3bet pot

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

26,730 games 0.078 secs 342,692 games/sec

Board: Ah Jc 8h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.660% 31.99% 10.67% 8550 2853.00 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 57.340% 46.67% 10.67% 12474 2853.00 { AA, JJ, 88, AJs+, AJo+ }


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So, call. I haven't even included the multiple draws he might have (since you are readless, he may very well show up with T9hh here, even KQhh sometimes). Also, AA is less likely than indicated above, since he will often 4-bet them preflop, giving you even better equity. It might be balanced out, though, by him not always getting it all-in with AQ here. Now I'm rambling. Pot odds indicates a call, so call. No question about it.

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Old 08-21-2007, 08:45 AM
bicilotti bicilotti is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 AK in 3bet pot

It seems to me you are quite in a bad spot. I don't think at this level an unknown player is capable of such a strong move without the needed values.

It can't be tp + nut flush draw and i really feel someone with AQ is not going to be that aggressive given the preflop actions.

In so many words: fold.
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