hypthetical Preflop Question

82Steve · #1 03-09-2006, 01:33 PM

suppose its capped to you on the BB and you hold QJs.
If you call its going to be at least 5way.
Do you consider calling?

econophile · #2 03-09-2006, 01:52 PM

you are likely dominated 3 ways from sunday, plus people are probably some of your straight cards, and your flush might not even be good --> fold

shday · #3 03-09-2006, 01:57 PM

~ 6:1 odds, no more raises possible, great implied odds. To juicy for me, I'm in.

MacGuyV · #4 03-09-2006, 02:00 PM

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~ 6:1 odds, no more raises possible, great implied odds. To juicy for me, I'm in.

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I don't know about great implied odds. Sure you get paid off when you hit a monster, but too often you're the one paying off with top pair and a backdoor something draw after the flop. I fold.

dumb ox · #5 03-09-2006, 02:01 PM

I call. It can't matter much either way, as it's fairly close and this situation hasn't happened to me in 40,000 hands.

ImsaKidd · #6 03-09-2006, 02:06 PM

Depends who the capper is, but probably a fold for me.

tom10167 · #7 03-09-2006, 02:09 PM

Insta fold. Your implied odds are crap, you're going to be putting in at least two bets on the flop. Out of position, and your hand sucks anyways.

cmwck · #8 03-09-2006, 02:21 PM

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Insta fold. Your implied odds are crap, you're going to be putting in at least two bets on the flop. Out of position, and your hand sucks anyways.

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Right. Your implied odds are future bets earned / initial investment. Your future bets earned will be about the same when you hit your hand. However, the initial investment goes up since you're putting in 3 small bets preflop. This alone makes your implied odds almost 3 times smaller than they would have been had you only invested 1 bet. It's even worse when you consider you might flop some draw and have to put in 2 or 3 bets because the pot odds are so high at that point.