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Old 08-20-2007, 04:35 PM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: 27$turbo: 66 UTG midway

I don't mind a shove but it seems pretty close. I'm pushing 77 all day.

What exactly is the reasoning behind this?
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: 27$turbo: 66 UTG midway

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I don't mind a shove but it seems pretty close. I'm pushing 77 all day.

What exactly is the reasoning behind this?

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With a quick look 66 looks to be a marginal borderline shove, from this 77 would not be as marginal so it would be a shove. I could be off, but without checking thats what I would probably shove.
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: 27$turbo: 66 UTG midway

w/ still 10bb, I fold without even thinking about it.
but if you have say only 7bbs, I will push there.
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: 27$turbo: 66 UTG midway

88+,AQ+ for me.
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: 27$turbo: 66 UTG midway

77+, AJ+ for me in this spot. I don't have SNGPT here but from memory ATs is really really close.
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: 27$turbo: 66 UTG midway

This spot really depends on the table to me and my image. I'm most likely to have a very good image here for a raise, unless I've been on a rush of cards.

So, it's more likely to come down to the table dynamics. Loose table I fold. Tight table I push.
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: 27$turbo: 66 UTG midway

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Vold very vast.

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Old 08-21-2007, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: 27$turbo: 66 UTG midway

Whoever said 88+, AJs+
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:20 AM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: 27$turbo: 66 UTG midway

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I don't mind a shove but it seems pretty close. I'm pushing 77 all day.

What exactly is the reasoning behind this?

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With a quick look 66 looks to be a marginal borderline shove, from this 77 would not be as marginal so it would be a shove. I could be off, but without checking thats what I would probably shove.

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Why do you and others suggest shoving so tight? Are you worried that people will call wide or are you just looking for a big edge? SNGPT says to push though it isn't that great. Anyway if people call as wide as SNGPT projects, you should probably fold both hands. But if you are shoving 77/AJ like you said, people shouldn't be calling unless they have a huge hand (TT/AK, 99/AQs, etc). So if that is the case, there is very little difference between sevens and sixes (and fives for that matter) as they have basically the same equity against each hand in the calling range. It is very tough to create a scenario where you should shove 77 and fold 66.

Anyway I would shove and shove 55 as well.
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:09 AM
sence25 sence25 is offline
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Default Re: 27$turbo: 66 UTG midway

i push this.
and against their calling ranges, the difference between 66 and 77 is very, very marginal.
ed: haven't seen shillx post.
he wrote what i wrote but with way more engagement.
FYI, 55 is an push for me too here.
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