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Old 08-20-2007, 06:23 PM
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Default Deep: Calling station leads for pot on river, can I raise?

Villian is 32/0.7 over 400 hands. He doesn't seem moronic, but then he never does anything but call or fold.


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $242.45
BB: $394.80
UTG: $188.10
Hero (BTN): $793.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $5.00

Flop: ($15) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, BB calls $15.00

Turn: ($45) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $45.00</font>, BB calls $45.00

River: ($135) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $126.00</font>, Hero ???

So I was like WTF??? Villian had been uber passive (obv) and then this . . . Is this like a turbo shove or what?
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Calling station leads for pot on river, can I raise?

shove it
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:34 PM
AaronOC AaronOC is offline
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Default Re: Calling station leads for pot on river, can I raise?

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shove it

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Old 08-20-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: Calling station leads for pot on river, can I raise?

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shove it

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Old 08-20-2007, 09:18 PM
yabastid yabastid is offline
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Default Re: Deep: Calling station leads for pot on river, can I raise?

So, you guys put him on AxKc (though he may reraise so we can weight slightly less), KcQc/ KcJc, 4c5c, 7c8c, 8c9c and maybe AxQc (though very doubtful)? The more I think about it, I just can't see a completely passive villian leading a river that pairs with out exactly AxKc or a hand that has us beat. I think there is more here than just we have a boat jam it.
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:26 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: Deep: Calling station leads for pot on river, can I raise?

You bet too much on flop and turn.


As played, go all-in.
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:28 PM
ViZioN ViZioN is offline
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Default Re: Deep: Calling station leads for pot on river, can I raise?

I'd shove the river here too. I think he is going to show up with the flush waaaay more times than AA or 66.

Btw do you always pot bet your cont bets on the flop?
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: Deep: Calling station leads for pot on river, can I raise?

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You bet too much on flop and turn.


As played, go all-in.

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OK, hadn't thought about that, but how would you bet and how would it change the hand?
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: Deep: Calling station leads for pot on river, can I raise?

It changes the hand in such a way that you can actually get called by something that can pay you off drawing.

It's the reason we don't openshove AA.
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: Deep: Calling station leads for pot on river, can I raise?

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You bet too much on flop and turn.

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I disagree. I think potting it is fine. He doesn't want another club to come, and the board pairing could kill his action.
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