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#11
08-19-2007, 08:10 PM
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Re: If you play it for money, you are likely breaking the law
One my friends argued this point, too, but I disagreed. Clearly golf requires physical skill. But do your opponents change your strategy? Perhaps in a one-on-one match play tournament, they would. (IE, you go for shots because you're X shots down and are basically throwing a hail-mary) However, since most golf rounds (including tournaments) are NOT match play, it's more of you against the course, because you don't interact with your opponent.
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#12
08-19-2007, 08:15 PM
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Re: If you play it for money, you are likely breaking the law
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One my friends argued this point, too, but I disagreed. Clearly golf requires physical skill. But do your opponents change your strategy? Perhaps in a one-on-one match play tournament, they would. (IE, you go for shots because you're X shots down and are basically throwing a hail-mary) However, since most golf rounds (including tournaments) are NOT match play, it's more of you against the course, because you don't interact with your opponent. [/ QUOTE ] In early rounds, I wouldn't think your play is impacted much. However, in the closing stages (assuming you are in contention), how aggressive or conservative your strategy is depends on how your opponents are faring. I certainly wouldn't lump in golf with sports like football, basketball, etc, but I don't think it deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as poker or horseshoes either. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#13
08-19-2007, 09:08 PM
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Re: If you play it for money, you are likely breaking the law
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In early rounds, I wouldn't think your play is impacted much. However, in the closing stages (assuming you are in contention), how aggressive or conservative your strategy is depends on how your opponents are faring. I certainly wouldn't lump in golf with sports like football, basketball, etc, but I don't think it deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as poker or horseshoes either. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Yes, that's basically what we went back and forth on as well. However, when you consider that the vast majority of golf rounds are played not in these situations, I still put it as a game. Although you're also correct, it's a much more challenging game than most out there. Interestingly enough, poker is almost exactly the opposite of golf. We didn't feel that it had enough physical skill, but the strategy aspect is overwhelming. Perhaps you could even break down games based on why they are NOT sports. (physical games, strategy games)
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#14
08-20-2007, 04:06 AM
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Re: If you play it for money, you are likely breaking the law
Our test was simple, was it more rigorous than cheerleading, and did it involve enough complexity to confuse a cheerleader.
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#15
08-20-2007, 08:29 AM
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Re: If you play it for money, you are likely breaking the law
First I would like to apologize for the fact the OP was kind of meager
as I was kinda stoned and wanted to see responces before making a more detailed post. What brought this post on is that I recently and in the past regurlarly have encountered posts where people seems to be really opposed to calling poker a sport. Why is that? Wheater you dont think poker should be consideret a sport due to its lack of physical demants or something else I dont find important. The important thing is that "on paper" poker should have the right to call itself a sport. No doubt that becoming an official sport would help alot to ensure the future of poker and Im really surpriced that people on these boards of all people dont seem to support this. Heck, we should all be spokesmen for the cause!! Such a large part of the "real" sports today is about stuff like Stars making the news, big dollars, commercials and is getting closer and closer to the entertainment business all the time. Poker already have the Stars, the tv-deals, the venues etc etc. What we really need is to be ligitimized and win mainstreem acseptance... Becoming a sport would not be a bad step on that road?! But maybe Im overestimating the impact a seal of approval like this would have on the industry?
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#16
08-20-2007, 08:35 AM
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Re: If you play it for money, you are likely breaking the law
Im aware that my spelling could be alot better above and Im sry [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Also just wanted to add why I think poker is a sport "on paper". The best argument I think is: ,,Because Chess is!" I resently had an interesting conversation with a friend of mine who is the danish national champ in Chess and I think around top 50 in the world. He is now also a pro online poker player. I asked which game had the most advanced levels of variations. Or said in another way which game is tougher over time. He said poker! And thats when I first realized that poker has a legitimate claim on becoming a sport and "We" should persue this goal, if for nothing else, its financial benefit of everybody who has poker as a job.,
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#17
08-20-2007, 08:55 AM
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Re: If you play it for money, you are likely breaking the law
Poker being offically a sport is the worst thing that could happen.
Sports betting is, without a doubt, illegal. As things are, 2 courts have said the sports betting laws (Wire Act) do not cover casino games, I.E. poker, why would you WANT to change that and place poker under the Wire Act? obg
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#18
08-20-2007, 09:07 AM
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Re: If you play it for money, you are likely breaking the law
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My friends and I had a conversation once about what is and isn't a sport. What we came up with was these two rules that sports follow: 1) Some measure of physical skill. 2) Strategy in which you must adjust to what your opponent (or opponents) do. If it doesn't follow these two laws, it's a game. (Although nothing is to say that games can't be competitive and intense) Now there are strange things that fall on the other side (Track & Field?), but in general, we find those two laws pretty much sum it up. Bowling - Not a sport. Golf - Not a sport. Poker - Not a sport. NASCAR - Is sitting down a physical skill? Endurance? Dexterity? The jury is still out, but the more I think of it, the more it seems to be a sport to me. Anyway, I just saw this thread and figured I'd comment :-P [/ QUOTE ] In every event in track&field you must continually adjust to your opponent's actions if you wish to compete at a high level.
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#19
08-20-2007, 09:29 AM
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Re: If you play it for money, you are likely breaking the law
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"I object to 14. Sex as sport is NOT obsolete. ' Most States outlaw playing this particular sport for money .... It is even illegal in Las Vegas to play this for money. [/ QUOTE ] What about last longer bets?
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#20
08-20-2007, 09:58 AM
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Re: If you play it for money, you are likely breaking the law
"What about last longer bets? "
Good point. In Costa Rica, play for pay is legal. The Del Rey Hotel hosts a Special Olympics every night; you need to be retarded to enter, but everyone is always a winner. Isn't everyone winning what Sport is all about ?
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