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Old 08-18-2007, 11:26 PM
Michaelson Michaelson is offline
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Default Two river laydowns against complete unknowns, a set and AA

Opinions on all streets would be appreciated. Straightforward?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $991.29
BB: $314.90
UTG: $199.00
CO: $350.60
Hero (BTN): $229.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $6.00

Flop: ($17) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, BB calls $12.00

Turn: ($41) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $18.00</font>, Hero calls $18.00

River: ($77) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $164.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $241.00

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $319.40
BB: $78.00
Hero (UTG): $200.00
MP: $138.85
CO: $340.14
BTN: $203.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $10.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($23) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $18.00</font>, CO calls $18.00

Turn: ($59) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $50.00</font>, CO calls $50.00

River: ($159) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $122.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $281.00
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Old 08-18-2007, 11:36 PM
sh58 sh58 is offline
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Default Re: Two river laydowns against complete unknowns, a set and AA

man, both of these are really tough.

1st one - you might make a sort of info raise or at least slowdown type raise, and fold to a 3bet, but calling is probably at least as good.

on the river his range is pretty polarised. air or a flush. i usually find donks don't immediately bet the flush when they have it, they prefer to check behind and then bet the river, so his line is weird. because of that, i may have called a river bet, but the massive overbet is just super tough. i think the fold is right because we are getting poor odds, we have to be right quite alot.

2nd hand - normally a bet fold would be in order, but here the pot is too big for a bet fold, since you would have to call a shove if you do bet the river. i think i would fold the river here too
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Old 08-18-2007, 11:50 PM
Vince. Vince. is offline
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Default Re: Two river laydowns against complete unknowns, a set and AA

both situations suck big time but I think you played them fine
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