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Re: Dumb question about extracting value
For timing I usually like a 3-5 second delay. Generally this is how long it takes me to pull the trigger with a fd in a case like this.
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Re: Dumb question about extracting value
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[ QUOTE ] Okay, I'll be nice: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 68.813% 68.03% 00.78% 4041 46.50 { 9d8d } Hand 1: 31.187% 30.40% 00.78% 1806 46.50 { JJ } Folds, you win $430. You shove, he calls, 68% of the time you win $430 in pot + $851 in his stack = +$871 You shove, he calls, 30% of the time you lose $1041 more. = $312 This ignores ties, because i'm lazy, but that's also additional EV for you. Shoving EV = $871-312 = $559. You do not want an overpair to fold. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] |
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folding JJ, thats worse than 2 pair right?
shove is probably your best bet here (zing). |
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Get it all in.
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[ QUOTE ] I'm shoving because I want JJ to fold. [/ QUOTE ] Classic! [/ QUOTE ] no your response is [censored] classic i see waht the OP means, but we're forgetting some things here. A. theres no gaur that he has an overpair here... sometimes if we make a pot raise here, he may come over the top with worse hands like overcard draws or JT. but wait, both of those are like 30-35% which is the same as JJ here so... maybe a shove is better to get them to fold because the ev of him folding in a pot this big is probably better than calling. Id pot raise and hope for a hero fold. the AI looks drawy no? -Joo |
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Isnt folding PF here the best option with his stack.
As played shove. |
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[ QUOTE ] I'm shoving because I want JJ to fold. [/ QUOTE ] Classic! [/ QUOTE ] linuxrocks sucks dick |
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