Line check w/ JTsoooted

F. McSimmons · #1 08-18-2007, 12:00 PM

My 2nd hand at table and no numbers on anybody involved.

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, 2 folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises

LoNeLyAcEs · #2 08-18-2007, 12:02 PM

it's close but a raise might be better because you could win the pot right here or on the turn if villain has TT,JJ,AJ...

SuLi · #3 08-18-2007, 12:04 PM

I think I don't raise the flop because I don't want to eliminate UTG and MP1.
I call only and reevaluate on turn.

boss · #4 08-18-2007, 12:06 PM

I never cold-call with JTs, with limpers I guess its borderline. If you had a read on MP3 as very loose I wouldnt mind a a raise to isolate him

As for the flop, I prefer to just call to keep UTG and MP1 in the hand.

CrMenace · #5 08-18-2007, 12:06 PM

OP -- you're 0 for 2 by my count.

F. McSimmons · #6 08-18-2007, 12:15 PM

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I understand calling the flop to induce more callers, but why are we folding this pf? It's very likely to be 5 to the flop and we have the button.. and this is .5/1 so we are probably going to be payed off well when we do flop well..

bennyhana · #7 08-18-2007, 12:15 PM

fold preflop.

why did you raise?

bennyhana · #8 08-18-2007, 12:18 PM

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I understand calling the flop to induce more callers, but why are we folding this pf? It's very likely to be 5 to the flop and we have the button.. and this is .5/1 so we are probably going to be payed off well when we do flop well..

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not against unknowns.

SuLi · #9 08-18-2007, 12:19 PM

I don't understand why everybody is folding this preflop.
We are in late position and there are 3 in. According to SSHE this is a call.

Fantam · #10 08-18-2007, 12:20 PM

I would not cold call preflop unless there was at least one more limper. 4+ limpers may be better.

You are more likely to win this hand against a preflop raiser by making a flush or straight, than by pairing either your J or T. So, you would like a lot of limpers to give you reasonable odds to catch a good draw.

Just call the flop bet. You dont want to drive out UTG & MP1. You would prefer them to also call and help pad the pot for the times that you make your draw.