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Old 08-17-2007, 10:39 AM
moldman moldman is offline
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Default 200NL - I suck at playing draws

Villain here is 22/7/0.5 over 300 hands. Pretty bad in general from what I can tell.

This hand is a bit different because of the board pairing, but I'm curious how others would play it as is and also if say the flop was 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or anything else where the board isn't paired.


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

<u>Hero (SB): $197.00</u>
BB: $366.50
UTG: $80.65
UTG+1: $333.25
MP1: $205.60
MP2: $199.80
MP3: $197.00
CO: $215.50
<u>BTN: $183.00</u>

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7.00</font>, Hero calls $6.00, BB folds

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $14.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $52.00</font>, BTN calls $38.00

Turn: ($120) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $88.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $124.00</font>, Hero calls $36.00

River: ($368) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $368.00 ($3 Rake)
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:49 AM
CazicT CazicT is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - I suck at playing draws

I'd probably play it the same against this villian.

Against a tougher villian i'd probably fold PF, being OOP.

Edit:
Well, maybe the check/raise on the flop isn't the best line vs. this opponent. 0.5 is passive. If he has a 7 though, he may re-raise you which you don't want. If he doesn't have a 7, he probably still has something and will call you unless he is a folder.

Also if he is a station, he may still pay you off even if your flush card hits. Maybe check/call might be better. Just some thoughts.

Is he a station or a folder?
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Old 08-17-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - I suck at playing draws

i think this is ok
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Old 08-17-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - I suck at playing draws

I wasn't sure about the station/folder thing at the time, but I definitely have a note now that says he's a station.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - I suck at playing draws

um. paired board against zero agg opponent who b/c your flop c/r and raises your turn?

it's good you have the nut straight flush, because you only have 2 outs here...right???
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:19 PM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - I suck at playing draws

I b3bai to maximize FE on the flop.

Too fast? Am I missing value? Spewey?
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - I suck at playing draws

c/c flop.

fold preflop
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - I suck at playing draws

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I b3bai to maximize FE on the flop.

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I don't like this against a super passive poor player. He won't raise your flop bet with a hand he will fold to a 3bet all in.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - I suck at playing draws

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um. paired board against zero agg opponent who b/c your flop c/r and raises your turn?

it's good you have the nut straight flush, because you only have 2 outs here...right???

[/ QUOTE ]

Umm... not even close.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - I suck at playing draws

This is a pretty clear fold pre-flop. Little suited connectors just don't play well out of position, especially in raised pots when stacks aren't particularly deep. You just don't make big hands often enough to play them without stealing and it's tough to steal well when you put yourself at a positional disadvantage.

On the flop, you're drawing to the non-nut straight and non-nut flush on a paired board. I just don't think getting it all in is how you make money in no limit.
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