Big flop decesion with JJ?

[QuietEarner]

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.15/$0.30 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $88.50
BB: $29.45
UTG: $21.60
MP: $64.80
CO: $69.65
BTN: $69.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.30, <font color="red">MP raises to $1.60</font>, CO calls $1.60, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.45, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $14.40</font>, CO folds, <font color="green">Hero folds</font>

Pot Size: $22.80

I only had about 11 hands with villain at this point. I don't know why but when he raised preflop I automatically was thinking he has AA or KK (gut feeling). Which makes me not 3betting preflop to find out where I was at worse I guess. Thoughts please.

[Rolen]

You're right of course, at 100BBs calling is fine but deep you really need to RR to narrow his range. If you RR and he just calls I think you can get a lot of money in vs a weaker overpair on this flop. If he 4bets it's prob a fold.

As played I don't think it matters all that much. Looks like 55, 66, 77 all the way up to AA. You're probably +ev if you're willing to try and make JJ-QQ-KK fold if an ace hits the turn but rather you than me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[tomonbass]

c/c lead nice turn a good line here???

Donk bet on flops asking for a reraise no???

I dont put villian on a 4 here overpair/cards seems likely

Also regarding preflop I wouldnt 3 bet JJ oop against an unknown opponent who opened in MP...

[QuietEarner]

Would it be so bad to check/call down?
What if he largely overbets the pot?
I didn't 3 bet originally because of position, but after the hand was done I said if I thought he really had a big hand I should have 3bet to see where I stand.

[tomonbass]

55-AA bet turn again if you check so you are still playing in the dark if your looking to c/c all the way to river even aggro opponents may fire a second bluff here...

c/c lead lets you..

pick off a cbet(more value from your hand if ahead)

make a better hand fold/slowdown (a overpair may fear a four and fold or let you see cheap showdown)

lets you know where you stand if a big reraise comes If opponent has a great hand AA/KK/QQ/33/44 Hell let you know by a reraise making it easy to fold your Jax

[tomonbass]

also you might turn your Jack [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[BalugaWhale]

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you really need to RR to narrow his range

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this is bad
raise pf for value

why are you leading the flop?

[Kasane]

You need to rr this pf. You're nearly burning money if you don't. Only argument against is how deep, but I don't think that's enough to not 3bet this. Picking off a small pot is much easier if you 3bet it (which is a good result for JJ), either on the flop or preflop. If you're going to play a big hand (ie, you hit a set or whatever), the 3bet sure is nice as well.

[traz]

I think bet/folding this flop is pretty bad.

If you're gonna fold, don't bet