Final Table Bubble 109+R, bust on other table, still push?

[Stumpy]

(It is +$EV to shove. ~$350 - $400.)

MUD, you can pretty much say 1 chip = (Prize Pool) / (Chips), with Adanthar's numbers 1 chip = $0.0625.

The difference between 10th and 9th is 12,800 chips.
So when you go all in and are called, add an additional -12,800 to your stack as a loss.

Blinds and Antes are 12,000.

F = Everyone Folds.
W = Win Chance if Called.

$0.0625(12,000(F) + (1-F)*(66,000*(W) - (66,800)*(1-W))) = Profit from shoving.

I'm ignoring when SB and BB both call, and calculating W as a weighted average of the two calling ranges.

33 vs Top 5% = 33/67
33 vs Top 10% = 40/60
33 vs Top 20% = 45/55

The more they call the worse it gets, but it never goes negative.
Even if they both called top 20% hands, (or Big stack called 30% small 10%) you're still +$321 by shoving.
For more reasonable 20%/10% calling ranges you're +$378

[Rekwob]

but folding is +$800 right?

[betgo]

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but folding is +$800 right?

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Wrong. You don't usually bust out when you push.

[Rekwob]

oh i missed where he adjusted for that

[Stumpy]

Sorry if that was slightly confusing.

I really should have said:
When you go all in, are called, and lose, it's an additional -12,800 chip loss.

That adds in the -$800 you miss when you bubble, so it's ~+$350 on average accounting for that.

[Ryanb9]

does the possibility of the SB/BB watching the other table make a difference in this?