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Old 08-16-2007, 04:30 PM
tomonbass tomonbass is offline
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Default Top Pair in Unraised Pot.... Any Good Lines???

I think this happens a lot in loose games...

Looking for potential lines to take

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($11.25)
BB ($14)
UTG ($7.50)
MP ($7.15)
Button ($14)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.10, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.40) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero ???
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair in Unraised Pot.... Any Good Lines???

I always lead out. Make it like 3/4 pot. You can probably fold to a raise from UTG, maybe from button as well.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair in Unraised Pot.... Any Good Lines???

you can donk out here and see what develops. or chk, see what develops with the main intent being a call (a bet and a raise and you should be gone though, even bet call is too laden with rio to think too much about.)

I might get some flack for the second option, but it's good if you play at a lot of orphan pots on the turn -- you gotta have it sometimes. I prefer to play a small pot with this hand, and you can get a lot of value out of btn's that auto bet this when it gets around to them after a limped pot. Chk-call, bet when it goes hu on turn is a good small ball way of playing the hand.

Of course, reads, turn card, and a ton of other stuff change this a dozen ways.

All in all, I think a donk is probably better here because of the straight draws.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair in Unraised Pot.... Any Good Lines???

yes, when it doubt bet, just make sure u can get rid of it if it gets ugly
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair in Unraised Pot.... Any Good Lines???

Oh, and be really wary of a J on the turn. You might have top two at that point, but it completes more than just the open ender (KQ will call this flop and is calling your donk.)
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair in Unraised Pot.... Any Good Lines???

ok so we donk bet with the plan to fold if it gets heavy...

What about turn action then say this for instance...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($11.25)
BB ($14)
UTG ($7.50)
MP ($7.15)
Button ($14)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.10, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.40) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero bets $0.30, BB folds, UTG Calls, Button Folds

Turn: ($1.00) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero???
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair in Unraised Pot.... Any Good Lines???

bet again. .75 I'd say. It sure would be nice to know what kind of players we're up against. Passive, aggro, nit, slow-player...

it's b/f, too. He's not raising anything we beat.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair in Unraised Pot.... Any Good Lines???

Im just looking for a kind of standard line vs Unknowns..

If you have advice against certain types of player then the more info the better...
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair in Unraised Pot.... Any Good Lines???

you have a hand on the turn, top pair. bet for value? Villain must have something to call
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair in Unraised Pot.... Any Good Lines???

Bet/fold flop + turn with no reads.
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