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Old 08-16-2007, 11:01 AM
ras52 ras52 is offline
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Default Commit to TP/weak kicker with medium/low M?

Third level of a $20 B&M MTT. My stack is ~4250, blinds 100/200, so M a little over 14. Button limps, SB completes, I check in the BB with Q4o. Flop Q-x-x with two spades, pot = 600. SB checks, I bet 500, button min-raises to 1000, SB folds.

I've been at this table for less than an orbit, so I can't interpret the button's limp, although the table has generally been passive PF so far.

I'm getting > 4:1 to call and see the next card, but I don't want to get sucked into a commitment to this hand. Having said that, my M is sliding and I'm feeling under pressure.

Fold/call/raise?
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:20 AM
J.A.K. J.A.K. is offline
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Default Re: Commit to TP/weak kicker with medium/low M?


What was buttons stack?
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: Commit to TP/weak kicker with medium/low M?

What's his stack?
Could he be a bully donk-raising with nothing? Could he have 2nd pr or flush draw? If those are the case shove.
If it were me, I'd feel I have a nice advantage over the field in a $20 tournament, so I'd just muck it if I didn't have any read and pick a better spot to get the chips in.
If you don't feel you have a big advantage over the field, lean toward shoving.
Calling is the 3rd best option here imo.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:29 AM
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Default Re: Commit to TP/weak kicker with medium/low M?

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What's his stack?

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Oops, sorry for the omission - he has me covered, by around 1.7:1 or so IIRC.

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Could he be a bully donk-raising with nothing? Could he have 2nd pr or flush draw? If those are the case shove.

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He's quiet but not timid with betting, and I've seen him take down a couple of pots, but none at showdown. My gut reaction puts him on a (better) queen or a flush draw.

In the event I took the worst option - calling - then check-folded the turn, which was a third spade. I immediately kicked myself for wasting > 10% of my stack on the call, as the only turn I'd really like would pair my kicker off-suit, i.e. 2 outs.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: Commit to TP/weak kicker with medium/low M?

your flop bet is too big imo.

either check the flop or make a bet about half of the potsize - i lean towards checking. with the buttons raise i think you have to fold, as you are most likely beaten by a better Q or 2 pair/set, don't think a flush draw would make a minirais, giving great pot odds. a flush draw either overbets/shoves or calls.

pot control is most important here with your low M.
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