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How can folding AQo preflop be recommended here even if OOP?
The right play PF is to raise it 4-5xBB + 1 per limper, err on the big side since you are OOP. This also solves the donk betting on the flop. With those stats I tend to fold unless you've seen him raise flushdraws agressively. Then Again, what hands beat you? QT likely holding for a preflop call in position TT could be a call but he should usually RR it PF 55 likely holding for a preflop call in position T5/Q5 not likely at all overpairs should be RR preflof The question is how likely do you think is QT, TT, 55 vs a flushdraw, KQ, QJ, KJ (maybe J9s but i doubt he'd play it) |
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i don't like c/ring the flop with top pair here. you'd basically be offering your entire stack to take down 1/3 of a buyin with a hand that really isn't what you want for that type of situation. if you want to play hands like this oop, than you'll often have to play them in the dark with c/c lines on the flop. this will make decisions tough most of the time, but you can't just be throwing your stack around oop with top pair too much.
edit: cr wouldn't bother me nearly as much if there weren't 3 people to act after you when you do it. |
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Dunno,
Limp, Raise, Call. I have to raise to about $5 and play AQo OOP against 1 or maybe 2 players. I really don't like it, I think you will win little or loose a lot [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] just my nitty 2 cents |
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The hand plays easier if you raise pf. You likely have the best hand, so you are raising for value. If the original raiser comes back over the top then you can dump AQ fairly easily.
I think the hand plays much easier (as in most cases) if you raise pf. |
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You should have bet the pot : here your donkbet is too small, so he can reraise you with a lot of hands if he sensed weakness. As played I fold on his raise.
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The hand plays easier if you raise pf. You likely have the best hand, so you are raising for value. If the original raiser comes back over the top then you can dump AQ fairly easily. I think the hand plays much easier (as in most cases) if you raise pf. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that raising PF is MUCH better than calling |
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] The hand plays easier if you raise pf. You likely have the best hand, so you are raising for value. If the original raiser comes back over the top then you can dump AQ fairly easily. I think the hand plays much easier (as in most cases) if you raise pf. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that raising PF is MUCH better than calling [/ QUOTE ] I am not sure I agree with this. Am I really 3betting AQ off suit from the blinds with a raise from the cutoff and two callers? Nope not sure I raise pre-flop here. |
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The hand plays easier if you raise pf. You likely have the best hand, so you are raising for value. If the original raiser comes back over the top then you can dump AQ fairly easily. I think the hand plays much easier (as in most cases) if you raise pf. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that raising PF is MUCH better than calling [/ QUOTE ] I am not sure I agree with this. Am I really 3betting AQ off suit from the blinds with a raise from the cutoff and two callers? Nope not sure I raise pre-flop here. [/ QUOTE ] I'm also not sure I agree with this. While I'm very aggro preflop in position, I'm pretty passive preflop oop, so I mostly call here, dependent upon the villain of course. Against this very tight villain, I will usually look to call and then attempt to get to a cheap showdown. I might raise and try to win the pot right there (and would absolutely raise against a Villain whose range I crush), but if I hit my flop against this nit, then what? I would be behind his range, yet would I give up the hand with TPTK, or TPGK? Illustrates the danger of inflating the pot oop with a vulnerable hand. I also would not lead out. Without reads, I would probably check-raise, and then be done with the hand. As played, I would fold once he raises. You're probably behind his range, playing oop ... not a good situation, you'll get much better ones. |
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The hand plays easier if you raise pf. You likely have the best hand, so you are raising for value. If the original raiser comes back over the top then you can dump AQ fairly easily. I think the hand plays much easier (as in most cases) if you raise pf. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that raising PF is MUCH better than calling [/ QUOTE ] I am not sure I agree with this. Am I really 3betting AQ off suit from the blinds with a raise from the cutoff and two callers? Nope not sure I raise pre-flop here. [/ QUOTE ] The reason that we raise PF here, is to eliminate marginal hands/ie SC's Small PP's, and get the hand heads up where our equity is much better. We have a decent hand here, and by 3-betting here we both squeeze the dead money from the limpers, and put a lot of pressure on the PF raiser....basically allows us to play our hand much easier Postflop, since now we have initiative. Also against a nit like this, a 4-bet makes for an easy fold PF. |
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Pre-flop:
Raise>>>>>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>>>Fold>>> ;>>>>>>>>Call Hand will play so much easier if you correct pre-flop. |
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